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   Irene Andersson to danijel   
   Re: Winter mushrooms from the "old" coun   
   12 Jan 06 01:09:32   
   
   From: ir@ene.nu   
      
   On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:07:35 +0100, danijel  wrote:   
      
   >I am not sure that the same waxy caps are at the picture 1 and 2. But,   
   >they could be very easily.   
   >   
   >At the picture two I think that they are all the same species, even   
   >the smallest one. They are slimy-looking because of wet conditions (   
   >you could see that the biggest is also slimy at the centre). I was   
   >also finding very similar waxy caps to that in the picture 2 - very   
   >rare at my place, but I know three locations were they grow. And   
   >always with oaks (at one place only oaks!). I think that they are   
   >Hygrophorus arbustivus.   
      
   I'm sure you are right, you have more experience with that species   
   than I have.   
      
   >Italian author Giussepe Pace calls them Oak   
   >wax-cap, and also Courtecuisse writes that they grow with beech and   
   >oak.   
      
   >H. lindtneri is more slimy (even in dry conditions) and grows with   
   >Carpinus. I was also finding waxy caps that could be H. lindtneri   
   >(=carpini=leucophaeus). They are smaller than those H. arbustivus I   
   >finding and brighter ochraceous (at the centre more tawny).  Also   
   >gills are not white, but ochraceous creamy. It is confusing because at   
   >Index fungorum they are all  the same species - H. lindtneri   
   >=carpini=leucophaeus, and Courtecuisse distinguish them as separate   
   >species. H. carpini and lindtneri very slimy, but H. leucophaeus not   
   >slimy.   
      
   True - it may not be a problem making H. carpini and lindtneri   
   synonyms, but the name leucophaeus has been misapplied on both H.   
   lindtneri and H. unicolor (=mesotephrus), another small and slimy   
   species with a pale cap, brownish grey in the middle and growing with   
   beech. H. leucophaeus was originally described as viscid (where is the   
   line drawn between viscid and slimy..?).   
      
   Irene Andersson   
      
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