From: ir@ene.nu   
      
   On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:23:17 +0100, danijel  wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:09:32 +0100, Irene Andersson  wrote:   
   >   
   >>True - it may not be a problem making H. carpini and lindtneri   
   >>synonyms, but the name leucophaeus has been misapplied on both H.   
   >>lindtneri and H. unicolor (=mesotephrus), another small and slimy   
   >>species with a pale cap, brownish grey in the middle and growing with   
   >>beech. H. leucophaeus was originally described as viscid (where is the   
   >>line drawn between viscid and slimy..?).   
   >   
   >Slimy or viscid? That is in some way equal for me.   
   >Courtecuisse say that H. lindtneri and carpini have a viscid stipe and   
   >leucophaeus has a dry stipe. In my Croatian book leucophaeus is   
   >described as species with viscid cap and stipe. My species that I   
   >found with hornbeam have a viscid cap and stipe. So, they could be   
   >lindtneri=carpini or leucophaeus, or maybe they are all the same   
   >species.   
      
   You are describing one of the major problems in mycology, where new   
   DNA technology isn't helping much. The taxonomic jungle is deep in the   
   genus Hygrophorus, with lots of different interpretations by different   
   authors.   
   The one that now is called H. leucophaeus by Phillips, was named H.   
   carpini in earlier editions.   
   The only one I have seen IRL, is a totally slimy, yellow one, growing   
   with hazel. According to all descriptions, it ought to be H.   
   lindtneri, not quite matching H. carpini or leucophaeus...   
      
   In Fungi of Switzerland is one H. unicolor (=leucophaeus) described   
   growing with beech, and H. carpini and H. lindtneri mentioned there as   
   synonyms for another species growing with hazel and hornbeam, but H.   
   mesotephrus is not discussed at all.   
      
   >Once I found small wax cap that could be H. mesotephrus. Cap was   
   >greyish black, especially at the centre, very slimy, tall and growing   
   >with beech.   
      
   Yes, that one might match the name H. mesotephrus.   
      
   Irene Andersson   
      
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