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   Kurt to All   
   nordic (1/2)   
   20 Jul 06 14:40:51   
   
   From: norsgerm@a...........   
      
   My hair is blond. I am Nowegian and german (notice the capital on Norwegian)   
   A fellow in my customer line teased some girls with that line and at my   
   favorite cigar bar (only one in Fargo) I got to use it on two young (drop   
   dead, young , aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh) scandinavian girls and they loved it.   
   Kurt   
   Ps true blonds leg hair tans white, want pictures¿   
   "jill"  wrote in message   
   news:1153383663.462555.219020@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...   
   > what the he double hockey sticks! Kurt tell the truth: what color is   
   > your hair? This is just as bad as the Mary Kay Lady saying you could   
   > tell a woman's personality by the shape of her lipstick.  I asked "so   
   > my lipstick always breaks off or melts, what's it mean?" No answer.   
   > jill   
   >   
   > Kurt wrote:   
   >> "Quee"  wrote in message   
   >> news:pMTug.4584$cF6.1843@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...   
   >> >   
   >> >  wrote in message   
   >> > news:1153119560.502082.65130@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Frederick Burroughs wrote:   
   >> >>> Quee wrote:   
   >> >>> >  wrote:   
   >> >>> >   
   >> >>> >>dspahr3d@aol.com wrote:   
   >> >>> >>   
   >> >>> >>>>I understand the sugar in your water solution: simple sugars   
   >> >>> >>>>often   
   >> >>> >>>>increase mycelium growth. But I don't understand about the salt.   
   >> >>> >>>>Salt   
   >> >>> >>>>solution often limits mycelium growth.   
   >> >>> >>>   
   >> >>> >>>Salt apparently keeps the bacterial growth down.   
   >> >>> >>>   
   >> >>> >>   
   >> >>> >>Salt may have a small affect on bacterial growth. Does that mean   
   >> >>> >>bacteria are less common on sea shores?   
   >> >>> >>   
   >> >>> >>Fungi exist in a wide variety of eco-niches. I'm unconvinced salt   
   >> >>> >>is a   
   >> >>> >>component of those niches. In other words, IMO fungi can   
   >> >>> >>out-compete   
   >> >>> >>with bacteria for many food sources. Some fungi apparently use   
   >> >>> >>bacteria   
   >> >>> >>as food sources/supplements.   
   >> >>> >>   
   >> >>> >   
   >> >>> > i must havr missed the mark here, and was miss informed stamets   
   >> >>> > must   
   >> >>> > go fix   
   >> >>> > this i assume the second edition of mycelium running will note this   
   >> >>> > gross   
   >> >>> > over statement  and i quote from Stamets (2005) Mycelium Running   
   >> >>> > "the   
   >> >>> > salt   
   >> >>> > limits bacteria growth without stifling spore germination" Pg. 131   
   >> >>> > Wow   
   >> >>> > Paul   
   >> >>> > you fucked up now. this man challenges you and your buddy Frank   
   >> >>> > Herbert you   
   >> >>> > know the doon guy, and the 20 some odd years of trial and error you   
   >> >>> > did   
   >> >>> > motha fucka, and how ever long frank has been praticing this shit,   
   >> >>> > a   
   >> >>> > saged   
   >> >>> > educated man like you Paul could fuck up so much, man i'd hate to   
   >> >>> > be   
   >> >>> > in your   
   >> >>> > shoes, damn this cat outed you, your found out, you dont now shit!   
   >> >>> >   
   >> >>> > that sarcasm guy why the fuck do you salt meat for, this discovery   
   >> >>> > from 5000   
   >> >>> > years ago was wrong, salt keeps bacteria at bay look it up, damn i   
   >> >>> > knew that   
   >> >>> > shit in first grade cat... boom bap surprise oohh! awe sheyot   
   >> >>> >   
   >> >>> I haven't read "Mycelium Running," yet. And, the assertion by Stamets   
   >> >>> that table salt is useful for mushroom culture is novel. I'm   
   >> >>> certainly   
   >> >>> no expert, but I've never heard of using salt in the culture process.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Salt has been used as a preservative for millennia. At the high   
   >> >>> concentrations used in food preservation almost no microbes can   
   >> >>> survive.   
   >> >>> I can only guess that Stamets is utilizing research that shows fungi   
   >> >>> and   
   >> >>> bacteria have different tolerances to salt. And, the levels of salt   
   >> >>> used   
   >> >>> in Stamets' formulas probably are effective against only the most   
   >> >>> common   
   >> >>> spoilage bacteria. The levels of salt used probably have no effect on   
   >> >>> other types of bacteria, such as those found in salty environments.   
   >> >>> Also, since molds are often responsible for contamination and   
   >> >>> spoilage,   
   >> >>> and they are also fungi, does salt hold them in check?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Salt is used in the fermentation of some foods (sauerkraut, kimchi,   
   >> >>> etc.) Salt selectively allows beneficial bacteria to grow and ferment   
   >> >>> the food, while the growth of more harmful spoilage bacteria is   
   >> >>> slowed,   
   >> >>> or prevented. In selectively allowing the growth of some organism   
   >> >>> over   
   >> >>> others, accurate levels of salt used is probably very important.   
   >> >> Some fungi obviously don't mind salt. Fungi associated with salty   
   >> >> soils, and oolitic fungi, for example.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> But in general, most fungi avoid salt when possible. Otherwise salt   
   >> >> licks would be mushroom havens.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Daniel B. Wheeler   
   >> >>   
   >> >   
   >> > LOLOLOL ok this is my last post on this one, your right fungus hates   
   >> > salt   
   >> > but it tolerates sodium, the slurry is "My assumption here" just to   
   >> > give   
   >> > the fungus spore a better foot hold that the currently residing   
   >> > bacteria   
   >> > in the fungus body, remember Paul said that these are old mushrooms   
   >> > past   
   >> > there prime and the spores are now heavy and the fruit bodies are   
   >> > decomposing at this point ammonia is building up, bla bla bla salt bla   
   >> > SALT, playing football in the basement, remember to run wild is   
   >> > tripping   
   >> > the light fantastic, hay funny story here   
   >> >   
   >> > I was sitting around a table at south Florida correctional visiting my   
   >> > brother "murder was the case that they gave him" any hoo we were   
   >> > talking   
   >> > about me and my dislike for children "I don't hate children" I avoid   
   >> > kids   
   >> > that cant talk, I have nothing to offer them, my nephew, my brothers   
   >> > son   
   >> > hung out with me longer than his own dad, this was actually the first   
   >> > time   
   >> > I ever held him he is five and lives only 20 miles away so yes I have   
   >> > issues, now back to the funny thing... my mom said he only likes kids   
   >> > that   
   >> > can talk back to him, I said  ok this is bad, it was a joke but a   
   >> > poorly   
   >> > timed one... "yah that why I'm adopting a young Mexican child labor   
   >> > worker" yah that's as bad as I get, this was a fucked up moment cause   
   >> > were   
   >> > at a prison visiting center, let not get to politically correct here I   
   >> > know that there are Mexicans around me, just as you know you don't make   
   >> > a   
   >> > black joke at KFC "hair out ya butt I'm black" we love chicken and its   
   >> > true, by the way if you don't there's something wrong with you...   
   >> >   
      
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