From: cosmicaug@hotmail.com   
      
   Quee wrote:   
   > St Cloud? as in Fl.?   
      
    Sorry, I should have been more specific because I knew that   
   there exists a St. Cloud in Florida. It's Saint Cloud, MN. Not horribly   
   far from where Jill lives, actually; because I recall commenting how I   
   lived a fair distance away but had been going to school (commuting then)   
   closer to where she lives.   
      
   August Pamplona   
      
   >   
   > "August Pamplona" wrote in message   
   > news:4sbse3Fuj1vtU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >> jill wrote:   
   >>> better late than never I guess...Hi August...Good to see you back. I   
   >>> was beginning to wonder if you and your hometown disappeared off the   
   >>> map, for about the past two months no reports from there on weather   
   >>> radio (no weather there?) and no sight of you here either, I was   
   >>> getting worried.   
   >>> jill   
   >> I live in Saint Cloud these days. I had no internet access for   
   >> over a month. Actually, I did have internet access through school but not   
   >> from home and I did not read Usenet or post (I suppose that I could have   
   >> chosen to read and post through Google but I didn't --and, in any case,   
   >> I'm too old fashioned to post through Google). The internet access issue   
   >> got resolved when I gave up on Charter and looked for other alternatives.   
   >> Now I have broadband for the first time. It is nice.   
   >>   
   >>> August Pamplona wrote:   
   >>>> Frederick Burroughs wrote:   
   >>>>> August Pamplona wrote:   
   >>>>>> Frederick Burroughs wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I tried to adapt it to growing mushroom mycelium as an adjunct to the   
   >>>>>>> yeast. The attempt was a compleat failure. The dough rose, but fell   
   >>>>>>> flat during baking. The bread tasted bitter, and smelled of burnt   
   >>>>>>> hair and rubber, and burnt popcorn.   
   >>>>>> Rather than having living cells doing what living cells do you   
   >>>>>> are probably having the enzymatic loads of lysing cells (mycelial   
   >>>>>> fragments, really) doing the work (however effectively) of your   
   >>>>>> fermentation (of both your bread dough and the fungal cell remnants).   
   >>>>>> I suppose that it is not surprising that this results in totally   
   >>>>>> different flavors and not in a good way. I mean, if you put your   
   >>>>>> maitake in a blender and let it stand for however long this was at   
   >>>>>> room temperature I would not expect it to taste very good.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Good suppositions. The raw dough itself had a sweetish aroma, but   
   >>>>> distinctly different from yeasty dough. On baking it became repulsive.   
   >>>>> I'm wondering if, unlike yeast, mushroom mycelium does not bake well at   
   >>>>> high temperatures (450° F)? Many mushrooms develop awful tastes when   
   >>>>> cooked at too high a temperature.   
   >>>> That could be the case but the temperature is never going to be   
   >>>> that hot inside the loaf itself. Unless such bad flavor components from   
   >>>> the crust dominate the rest it probably shouldn't turn out as bad as   
   >>>> what you describe. I suspect that it might have been bad throughout the   
   >>>> whole loaf. Did you ever taste the raw dough? I'm just wondering if it   
   >>>> was also very repulsive.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> August Pamplona   
   >> August Pamplona   
      
   August Pamplona   
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