From: bmitts10@comcast.net   
      
   Robert Baer wrote:   
      
   > Leonidas Jones wrote:   
   >   
   >> Robert Baer wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   If one has an older version of Netscape, installation of 7.2 seems   
   >>> to "bring across" the bookmarks reliably, usually gets the master   
   >>> e-mail account (but may not have all subfolders if old one had more   
   >>> than the "standard"), and may (or may not) get the newsgroups.   
   >>>   
   >>>   *NEVER* use the so-called Profile Manager, ever!   
   >>>   All it "lets" you do is add or delete; zero editing and zero   
   >>> options on creation of an account or whatever.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Clearly you don't understand the concept of profiles or the Profile   
   >> Manager very well.  You complain because it does exactly what its   
   >> designed to do.  It exists to create new profiles, delete old ones,   
   >> rename existing ones, and to allow you to choose in which profile to   
   >> open the program.   
   >>   
   >> Anything else you mention is designed to be adjusted in the UI of   
   >> Netscape, opened in the profile, not in Profile Manger.   
   >>   
   >>>   It totally destroys what ever customizing you had done on the web   
   >>> page, even if you had done nothing. The resulting browser page has so   
   >>> much junk on it (both on top and on the left) that one has about 60   
   >>> percent of window space left for actual web pages. And it totally   
   >>> diddles e-mail, newsgroups, etc & etc.  Worse than a virus.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Of course it does.  If you create e new profile, you're basically   
   >> starting over. You get Netscape out of the box, as it were.  If you   
   >> want to get your old settings back, use Profile Manager to open in the   
   >> original profile.  Then customize View settings to get rid of unwanted   
   >> toolbars and the sidebar if you don't like it.  The next time you open   
   >> in  that profile, those settings will be remembered.  Create a new   
   >> profile, and you get the default settings again.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   If you un-install and then re-install, do not expect anything   
   >>> better than before, it will be a worse set-up and newsgroups will be   
   >>> totally gone. You will have to start from scratch. And when you do   
   >>> that, you *cannot* change the order! In NS4.75, one could "grab" one   
   >>> withthemouse and move it up or down - similar to re-arranging one's   
   >>> bookmarks.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Netscape is designed to allow you to upgrade to new versions without   
   >> losing all your settings.  An uninstall/reinstall does not touch the   
   >> profile.  The new installation looks for an existing profile, and, if   
   >> ti finds it, uses it.  Again, you seem to have created a new profile   
   >> and you don't like it.  Well, either customize it to your liking in   
   >> the UI, or go back to the old profile.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   To get any sanity, one must do a complete un-install and leave   
   >>> nothing behind (well, some stays anyway).   
   >>>   This allows the re-install to get the bookmarks and one e-mail   
   >>> correct. Other e-mail accounts must be done one at a time, and   
   >>> newsgroups *must* be done from scratch. Subscribe in the exact order   
   >>> that you want them listed, period.   
   >>>   
   >>>   And forget Norton Anti-Virus checking of your e-mail.   
   >>>   
   >>>   Other than having to jump a lot of hoops and take a lot of sass,   
   >>> NS7.2 (after one gets all working OK) seems better than 4.75 or 6.2 .   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Well, If ff you are allowing 7.2 to import settings from NC4.x, one   
   >> email account is all your going to get.  One of the big limitations of   
   >> old Netscape versions is that each profile could only have one email   
   >> account set up.  To get more, you needed more then one profile. 7.2   
   >> allows for multiple email accounts but any other then the one that was   
   >> in the original NC profile will have to be set up manually.   
   >>   
   >> While multiple mail accounts is one of the many great advances in 7.2,   
   >> there are features in 4.x that are not present in the new version.   
   >> That's because its not really a new  version.  It is a new program,   
   >> completely redesigned from the ground up.  There is no code in common.   
   >> Reordering newsgroups  within an account is one of those feature.   
   >> However, it can be done, and done quite easily, by editing the   
   >> account's .rc file in the profile.  I'll post more complete directions   
   >> if you are interested.   
   >>   
   >> I haven't used Norton AV in quite a while, but people do use it   
   >> successfully with NS.  I do use AVG, and it scans both incoming and   
   >> outgoing mail with no problems.   
   >>   
   >> Lee   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   The "profile manager" does *not* give you "what you get Netscape out   
   > of the box".   
   >   It is worse; like i said, there is so much extra junk on the top and   
   > on the side, that you are lucky to have about 60 percent of the screen   
   > left for borwsing.   
   >   And one expects to be able to use a "manager" to *manage*, not to just   
   > stupidly destroy something; and to be able to !modify! something.   
   > **********   
   >   Concerning multiple e-mail accounts, i understand that older versions   
   > only had one.   
   >   But NS7.2 is supposed to allow more than one; the damn radio buttons   
   > in the Copies and Folders section are totally unuseable in added e-mail   
   > accounts.   
   >   So what good is an account that cannot be configured?   
   > ****   
   >   You make the general statement that "people do use NAV sucessfully   
   > with NS" with absolutely no qualifications - thereby falsely implying   
   > that there are zero problems and why am *i* bitching.   
   >   On the other hand, i was a bit more eXplicit.   
      
   My Netscape 7.2 works perfectly!   
   I have it set up properly!  It lets me   
   set things up the way I like them   
   and gives me no grief.  Been like   
   like this since I first installed it many   
   moons ago.   
      
   As far as Norton Antivirus it works   
   perfectly on both incoming an out   
   going E-mails!  It checks my activity   
   on the many newsgroups I am on   
   without any problems!  Netscape   
   Navigator works without any prob-   
   lems at all.   
      
   You may have installed the short ver-   
   sion of 7.2-  had problems with it and   
   then dumped it.  When you do this   
   you have to take off everything deal-   
   ing with Netscape and then install   
   the full version of Netscape 7.2.  I did   
   this and it has worked right ever since   
   I know you mentioned you did this but   
   you said you left some things on your   
   system but you should have saved   
   what you wanted and then clean every-   
   thing off it will mess up even the full   
   version of 7.2 in some cases.  I know   
   it did mine.  Some of the guys walked   
   me through the installation and viola!   
   it runs perfect.   
      
   Keep asking for help, and do what is   
   suggested, and it will work!  The guys   
      
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