From: bmitts10@comcast.net   
      
   Robert Baer wrote:   
   > Ben Mitts wrote:   
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   >> Robert Baer wrote:   
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   >>> Leonidas Jones wrote:   
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   >>>> Robert Baer wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   If one has an older version of Netscape, installation of 7.2   
   >>>>> seems to "bring across" the bookmarks reliably, usually gets the   
   >>>>> master e-mail account (but may not have all subfolders if old one   
   >>>>> had more than the "standard"), and may (or may not) get the   
   >>>>> newsgroups.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   *NEVER* use the so-called Profile Manager, ever!   
   >>>>>   All it "lets" you do is add or delete; zero editing and zero   
   >>>>> options on creation of an account or whatever.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
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   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Clearly you don't understand the concept of profiles or the Profile   
   >>>> Manager very well.  You complain because it does exactly what its   
   >>>> designed to do.  It exists to create new profiles, delete old ones,   
   >>>> rename existing ones, and to allow you to choose in which profile to   
   >>>> open the program.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Anything else you mention is designed to be adjusted in the UI of   
   >>>> Netscape, opened in the profile, not in Profile Manger.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   It totally destroys what ever customizing you had done on the web   
   >>>>> page, even if you had done nothing. The resulting browser page has   
   >>>>> so much junk on it (both on top and on the left) that one has about   
   >>>>> 60 percent of window space left for actual web pages. And it   
   >>>>> totally diddles e-mail, newsgroups, etc & etc.  Worse than a virus.   
   >>>>   
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   >>>>   
   >>>> Of course it does.  If you create e new profile, you're basically   
   >>>> starting over. You get Netscape out of the box, as it were.  If you   
   >>>> want to get your old settings back, use Profile Manager to open in   
   >>>> the original profile.  Then customize View settings to get rid of   
   >>>> unwanted toolbars and the sidebar if you don't like it.  The next   
   >>>> time you open in  that profile, those settings will be remembered.   
   >>>> Create a new profile, and you get the default settings again.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   If you un-install and then re-install, do not expect anything   
   >>>>> better than before, it will be a worse set-up and newsgroups will   
   >>>>> be totally gone. You will have to start from scratch. And when you   
   >>>>> do that, you *cannot* change the order! In NS4.75, one could "grab"   
   >>>>> one withthemouse and move it up or down - similar to re-arranging   
   >>>>> one's bookmarks.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Netscape is designed to allow you to upgrade to new versions without   
   >>>> losing all your settings.  An uninstall/reinstall does not touch the   
   >>>> profile.  The new installation looks for an existing profile, and,   
   >>>> if ti finds it, uses it.  Again, you seem to have created a new   
   >>>> profile and you don't like it.  Well, either customize it to your   
   >>>> liking in the UI, or go back to the old profile.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   To get any sanity, one must do a complete un-install and leave   
   >>>>> nothing behind (well, some stays anyway).   
   >>>>>   This allows the re-install to get the bookmarks and one e-mail   
   >>>>> correct. Other e-mail accounts must be done one at a time, and   
   >>>>> newsgroups *must* be done from scratch. Subscribe in the exact   
   >>>>> order that you want them listed, period.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   And forget Norton Anti-Virus checking of your e-mail.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   Other than having to jump a lot of hoops and take a lot of sass,   
   >>>>> NS7.2 (after one gets all working OK) seems better than 4.75 or 6.2 .   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Well, If ff you are allowing 7.2 to import settings from NC4.x, one   
   >>>> email account is all your going to get.  One of the big limitations   
   >>>> of old Netscape versions is that each profile could only have one   
   >>>> email account set up.  To get more, you needed more then one   
   >>>> profile. 7.2 allows for multiple email accounts but any other then   
   >>>> the one that was in the original NC profile will have to be set up   
   >>>> manually.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> While multiple mail accounts is one of the many great advances in   
   >>>> 7.2, there are features in 4.x that are not present in the new   
   >>>> version. That's because its not really a new  version.  It is a new   
   >>>> program, completely redesigned from the ground up.  There is no code   
   >>>> in common. Reordering newsgroups  within an account is one of those   
   >>>> feature. However, it can be done, and done quite easily, by editing   
   >>>> the account's .rc file in the profile.  I'll post more complete   
   >>>> directions if you are interested.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I haven't used Norton AV in quite a while, but people do use it   
   >>>> successfully with NS.  I do use AVG, and it scans both incoming and   
   >>>> outgoing mail with no problems.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Lee   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   The "profile manager" does *not* give you "what you get Netscape   
   >>> out of the box".   
   >>>   It is worse; like i said, there is so much extra junk on the top   
   >>> and on the side, that you are lucky to have about 60 percent of the   
   >>> screen left for borwsing.   
   >>>   And one expects to be able to use a "manager" to *manage*, not to   
   >>> just stupidly destroy something; and to be able to !modify! something.   
   >>> **********   
   >>>   Concerning multiple e-mail accounts, i understand that older   
   >>> versions only had one.   
   >>>   But NS7.2 is supposed to allow more than one; the damn radio   
   >>> buttons in the Copies and Folders section are totally unuseable in   
   >>> added e-mail accounts.   
   >>>   So what good is an account that cannot be configured?   
   >>> ****   
   >>>   You make the general statement that "people do use NAV sucessfully   
   >>> with NS" with absolutely no qualifications - thereby falsely implying   
   >>> that there are zero problems and why am *i* bitching.   
   >>>   On the other hand, i was a bit more eXplicit.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> My Netscape 7.2 works perfectly!   
   >> I have it set up properly!  It lets me   
   >> set things up the way I like them   
   >> and gives me no grief.  Been like   
   >> like this since I first installed it many   
   >> moons ago.   
   >>   
   >> As far as Norton Antivirus it works   
   >> perfectly on both incoming an out   
   >> going E-mails!  It checks my activity   
   >> on the many newsgroups I am on   
   >> without any problems!  Netscape   
   >> Navigator works without any prob-   
   >> lems at all.   
   >>   
   >> You may have installed the short ver-   
   >> sion of 7.2-  had problems with it and   
   >> then dumped it.  When you do this   
   >> you have to take off everything deal-   
   >> ing with Netscape and then install   
   >> the full version of Netscape 7.2.  I did   
   >> this and it has worked right ever since   
      
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