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   Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj to Moz Champion   
   Re: 7.1 craziness   
   24 May 05 05:33:30   
   
   From: urjlew@bellsouth.net   
      
   Moz Champion wrote:   
   > Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote:   
   >   
   >> Perhaps THE NETSCAPE GURUS can explain please.   
   >>   
   >> I was working on my Local Folders, moving messages between folders,   
   >> etc.. The system was off-line, with the modem powered down!   
   >> All of a sudden while, my hands were off the keyboard, and off   
   >> the mouse!, the display (jumped around) i.e changed on its own.   
   >> The folder that I had highlighted and was inspecting, disappeared.   
   >> The highlight jumped to a different folder.   
   >>   
   >> Of course I was much surprised and went looking for my missing   
   >> folder. Finally I found that:   
   >> One of the other folders had suddenly acquired a subfolder,   
   >> whose contents were my missing folder. Checking the files   
   >> structure with the Windows file system explorer, I found   
   >> that sure enough an  .sbd subdirectory had been created   
   >> and my folder and its .msf file had been moved to the .sbd   
   >> subdirectory.  i.e.   
   >>   
   >> The file structure Before was:   
   >>  X:"local folders"   
   >>     aaa   
   >>     aaa.msf   
   >>     bbb   
   >>     bbb.msf   
   >>    ........   
   >> And After:   
   >>  X:"local folders"   
   >>     bbb.sbd   
   >>     bbb   
   >>     bbb.msf   
   >>    ..........   
   >>  and in bbb.sbd   
   >>     aaa   
   >>     aaa.msf   
   >>   
   >> I also noticed a bunch of folders in the Netscape Local Folders   
   >> structure, (and they were reflected in the Windows explorer structure   
   >> of X:"local folders") that I had not created.   
   >> Looking at the contents of these I was surprised to find that some   
   >> of them were holding contents just like some groups of messages   
   >> that I had been moving around between different folders earlier.   
   >> I.E These seemed to be some kind of Netscape temporaries ???   
   >> The names on these extra folders were: nstmp, nstmp-1, nstmp-2 ...   
   >> Some of the contents of the other nstmp-* folders   
   >> seemed to be quite old. i.e. not messages that I had been   
   >> manipulating recently.   
   >>   
   >> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ???   
   >> --   
   >> Rostyk   
   >>   
   >   
   > If Mozilla/Netscape was off and not running, then *it* didnt do anything   
   > - it was your system that did    
   > so best ask a windows guru why its file management system messed up when   
   > you were sorting files with Netscape/Mozilla off!   
      
   Please don't misread my words intentionally :-\ That  is a poor excuse!   
   I was using netscapes' facilities to move the messages around among the   
   folders! The system was off-line i.e. not connected to the network!   
   That info was provided to remove possible suspicion of outside/remote   
   interference!   
   OK?   
      
   >   
   > Several bugs in Mozilla can cause such as the nstmp, nstmp-1 entries.   
   > Best bet is to remove them temporarily from Mozilla (with Mozilla off of   
   > course) and then restart mozilla, if you havent lost anything, then you   
   > can delete the errant files   
   > If things are missing or changed in Mozilla, then quit and place the   
   > files back where you got them from.   
   > Check before deleting!   
   >   
   Yeah :-\ sure :( some bugs? and no info on what kind of conditions   
   will cause Netscape 7.1 to suddenly rearrange folder structures,   
   or create these persisting temporary folders. ?   
   I recreated an aaa folder and moved back to it all the messages   
   which NS moved into its created subfolder of bbb, and then deleted   
   the NS created subfolder. I compressed all the folders, to let   
   NS clean up its indexes. I shut down and restarted NS.   
   But looking at the files with the Windows explorer, I note that   
   NS did not get rid of the  bbb.sbd folder, I.e. NS is not cleaning   
   up the system file structure properly.   
      
      
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