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   Message 3,853 of 5,620   
   Moz Champion to Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj   
   Re: 7.1 craziness   
   25 May 05 04:02:42   
   
   From: moz.champion@sympatico.ca   
      
   Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote:   
   > Moz Champion wrote:   
   >   
   >> Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Perhaps THE NETSCAPE GURUS can explain please.   
   >>>   
   >>> I was working on my Local Folders, moving messages between folders,   
   >>> etc.. The system was off-line, with the modem powered down!   
   >>> All of a sudden while, my hands were off the keyboard, and off   
   >>> the mouse!, the display (jumped around) i.e changed on its own.   
   >>> The folder that I had highlighted and was inspecting, disappeared.   
   >>> The highlight jumped to a different folder.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course I was much surprised and went looking for my missing   
   >>> folder. Finally I found that:   
   >>> One of the other folders had suddenly acquired a subfolder,   
   >>> whose contents were my missing folder. Checking the files   
   >>> structure with the Windows file system explorer, I found   
   >>> that sure enough an  .sbd subdirectory had been created   
   >>> and my folder and its .msf file had been moved to the .sbd   
   >>> subdirectory.  i.e.   
   >>>   
   >>> The file structure Before was:   
   >>>  X:"local folders"   
   >>>     aaa   
   >>>     aaa.msf   
   >>>     bbb   
   >>>     bbb.msf   
   >>>    ........   
   >>> And After:   
   >>>  X:"local folders"   
   >>>     bbb.sbd   
   >>>     bbb   
   >>>     bbb.msf   
   >>>    ..........   
   >>>  and in bbb.sbd   
   >>>     aaa   
   >>>     aaa.msf   
   >>>   
   >>> I also noticed a bunch of folders in the Netscape Local Folders   
   >>> structure, (and they were reflected in the Windows explorer structure   
   >>> of X:"local folders") that I had not created.   
   >>> Looking at the contents of these I was surprised to find that some   
   >>> of them were holding contents just like some groups of messages   
   >>> that I had been moving around between different folders earlier.   
   >>> I.E These seemed to be some kind of Netscape temporaries ???   
   >>> The names on these extra folders were: nstmp, nstmp-1, nstmp-2 ...   
   >>> Some of the contents of the other nstmp-* folders   
   >>> seemed to be quite old. i.e. not messages that I had been   
   >>> manipulating recently.   
   >>>   
   >>> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ???   
   >>> --   
   >>> Rostyk   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> If Mozilla/Netscape was off and not running, then *it* didnt do   
   >> anything - it was your system that did    
   >> so best ask a windows guru why its file management system messed up   
   >> when you were sorting files with Netscape/Mozilla off!   
   >   
   >   
   > Please don't misread my words intentionally :-\ That  is a poor excuse!   
   > I was using netscapes' facilities to move the messages around among the   
   > folders! The system was off-line i.e. not connected to the network!   
   > That info was provided to remove possible suspicion of outside/remote   
   > interference!   
   > OK?   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Several bugs in Mozilla can cause such as the nstmp, nstmp-1 entries.   
   >> Best bet is to remove them temporarily from Mozilla (with Mozilla off   
   >> of course) and then restart mozilla, if you havent lost anything, then   
   >> you can delete the errant files   
   >> If things are missing or changed in Mozilla, then quit and place the   
   >> files back where you got them from.   
   >> Check before deleting!   
   >>   
   > Yeah :-\ sure :( some bugs? and no info on what kind of conditions   
   > will cause Netscape 7.1 to suddenly rearrange folder structures,   
   > or create these persisting temporary folders. ?   
   > I recreated an aaa folder and moved back to it all the messages   
   > which NS moved into its created subfolder of bbb, and then deleted   
   > the NS created subfolder. I compressed all the folders, to let   
   > NS clean up its indexes. I shut down and restarted NS.   
   > But looking at the files with the Windows explorer, I note that   
   > NS did not get rid of the  bbb.sbd folder, I.e. NS is not cleaning   
   > up the system file structure properly.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
      
   Well, if you 'slipped' and dropped the folder into another folder, that   
   would account for exactly the symptoms you described.   
   You put (by mistake) a folder in a folder, so a .sbd was created and the   
   folder appeared there.   
      
   Perhaps a little more care when mousing around would be satisfactory    
      
   It happens to the best of us.  A little slip, a little inattention, and   
     where did it go!  It happens.   
      
   Mozilla never did do a good job at cleaning up, but it usually doesnt   
   matter to performance.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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