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      XPost: alt.sex.eroticca, alt.comsat.pornography, alt.tv.young+restless       XPost: alt.bianaries.sound.mp3              MI5. Persecution Update: Friday 11 June, 1999              Harassment in. a pub in Clapham, Tuesday lunchtime              Once. a month, or once every other month, I meet a Polish friends of mine       who lives in Clapham North, and sometimes we go to a. particular pub near       where he lives. The last time. was some two months ago; I did not have my       minidisc-walkman with. me, and consequently was seriously harassed by       people MI5 had instructed to. harass me, in the pub.              This Tuesday, 8 June. 1999, we again went to the same pub for a pre-meal       drink.. This time I did have my minidisc-walkman with me. As you can guess,       we were followed into the pub by a. couple of young people (Im getting       older and older - isnt it funny how the MI5 agents. all look young these       days?). They started talking about my. situation, in particular some travel       I had booked the previous day. Unfortunately, they were. talking fairly       quietly, and. my minidisc didnt pick up their speech.              MI5s schizophrenic reasoning is that simultaneously. I am very important       and worthy of their acts of persecution, and. I am also totally unimportant       and their abuse. of me "doesnt matter". Perhaps they should test their       agents and managers for obsessive personalities or psychotic. features in       the. same way as employees are drug-tested. MI5 might lose their "worst       cases" employees. if some psychological testing were applied to their       recruitment. procedure.              Toothless Watchdogs.. What a Surprise.              Recently I have been engaging. in communications with two watchdogs, the       Security Service Tribunal which. deals with complaints against the security       service (and always clears MI5 of any wrongdoing), and the. Data Protection       Registrar, which is mandated to investigate misuse of personal data. held       on. computer.              In. a letter to Nick Brooks, Security Service Tribunal secretary, dated 20       April, I asked him if the Tribunal, as an. allegedly independent body, had       the means to investigate complaints against MI5. other than asking MI5 to       themselves investigate complaints. To my disappointment, his. reply two       weeks later answered the question only indirectly, in. the       negative. Whatever. the reader might think of the merits of the case I have       been putting before you in faxed articles this last year. and half, you       will surely recognise. that it is a significant anomaly for the Tribunal to       have no independent means. of investigating complaints, particularly given       the view expressed even by previous home. secretaries that the security       services are. untrustworthy.                            MI5 Persecution: No Justice for the Victims. of MI5              In. a previous article I detailed the similarities between the current MI5       Persecution in England, and other. historical instances of similar       persecution, notably. that by the Nazi Germans in the thirties and       forties. The Germans persecuted first the mentally ill, the. epileptics and       those suffering from schizophrenia, then moved on to racial groups;. in       todays Britain the persecution is. again directed at those with mental       illness, which the British in their cowardice find. easier than taking on       racial groups as the Germans did. But just as in Thirties. Germany there       was no recourse against. a malign and omnipotent state, so the MI5 Secret       Police in the modern British Fascist State allow. no justice for their       victims.              No Recourse. Against the Security Services Illegal Harassment              It has become apparent to. me over the last nine years just how loaded the       dice are in todays Britain, a fundamentally fascist country. which       masquerades as a democracy. Britain is. a democracy in name only; the       Establishment, the defence and MI5 secret police. are always there,       regardless of which. party has been voted into power most recently - and       from "New Labours" conduct in office one finds. it difficult to tell them       apart. from Old Tories, in their crackdowns on the sick and vulnerable in       society.              In thirties Germany the victims of the Nazi regime had. no legal recourse       against their State oppressors; and in todays. Fascist British state, the       victims of the Establishment. and its MI5 Secret Police similarly have no       recourse. against the illegal state-funded and organised oppression. There       is supposed to be a mechanism for dealing with MI5. crimes, in the shape of       the. Security Service Tribunal and Commissioner; yet these have never found       favour of a plaintiff. One. might as well ask the Nazi SS to investigate       crimes against epileptics or Jews as ask. the Security Service Tribunal to       investigate MI5 crimes against. British citizens; it is quite obvious what       the. answer is going to be, regardless of what you say to them, and what       evidence you provide. The Tribunal and. Commissioner are a mere formality,       a whitewashing body to give the Secret Services a veneer. beneath which       they hide. their shabby criminality.              "Institutional Racism" and Bigotry in the Metropolitan. Police              The recent inquiry. into the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence found clear       evidence of systematic. and deliberate racism in the Metropolitan Police,       which cannot have surprised anyone. Commissioner Sir Paul Condon. accepted       a somewhat lukewarm. definition of institutional racism as being       "unconscious". In truth, and. this truth must surely be obvious to anyone       who has any. familiarity or encountered the great British police, the Met       has not just "unconscious" racism,. but very clearly "conscious" and       deliberate racism, of. the kind that would have done Thirties Germans       proud. And it is. a bastion of such open racism - when many other parts of       society are learning to live in a multicultural environment, the Met. is       still living. in the past in its attitude to the minorities.              But in addition. to the systematic racism confirmed by the Lawrence       inquiry, there is also something much more relevant to this case, which. is       systematic. police bigotry against the physically and mentally disabled,       which I personally have experienced in my. dealings with the police over       the years. You cannot expect equal treatment if you. are mentally       disabled. I tried to make a complaint to the police. in 1995 about the       harassment I had been subjected. to for several years. As soon as they       found out I had mental illness,. they refused to even talk to me. I tried       again in March 1999; the police made various threats to me,. while ranting       about "your. paranoid rubbish" in reference to the complaints expressed to       them.              The police refusal to do the job. they are employed and paid to do is       extremely serious, particularly as this case is highly. important, indeed       key to the whole. issue of British self-perception at the end of the 20th       century and the beginning. of the 21st century. Britain has lost much in       the last fifty years - it has. lost an empire, it has lost its self-respect       and its identity as a people. If the MI5. persecution finally makes it into              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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