XPost: alt.fan.mozilla   
   From: -rf-nz-@-.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:50:22 GMT, in message    
   playing@work.edu (Doug Bashford) wrote:   
      
   > An aside, it seems mozzilla corp is attempting   
   > with some success to assimillate the Usenet Netscape   
   > newsgroups. I'll not be assimilated, on general   
   > principle.   
      
   The netscape.public.mozilla.* newsgroups were set up   
   for the mozilla organization, not as Netscape help   
   newsgroups.   
      
      
   > But it seems to me that we Useneters are making   
   > that easy for them since there is no Netscape.help   
   > newsgroup...that is, something that would show up   
   > definatively as Netscape help in a "netscape" search   
   > of the NGs.   
      
   You appear to be looking for newsgroups such as   
   netscape.navigator and netscape.nertscape6.windows.   
   You will find these newsgroups on Netscape's SSL news   
   server using these settings:   
      
       News server name:           secnews.netscape.com   
       Secure connection (SSL):    Yes   
       Port:                       563  (the default when SSL is turned on)   
      
   Generally speaking, only the netscape.public.*   
   newsgroups were available from other Usenet servers.   
      
      
   > X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243   
      
   Unfortunately  Forte Free Agent 1.21 does not support SSL.   
      
   You must use SSL to access the Netscape help newsgroups   
   on Netscape's news server.  If you don't use SSL you   
   will get a smaller list of newsgroups, missing the Netscape   
   help newsgroups.   
      
   You can either use an add-on like STunnel to provide the   
   SSL for Free Agent, or you can walk the talk and use a   
   Netscape newsreader (Netscape newsreaders do support SSL).   
   You can use Mozilla Thunderbird too, but you may need   
   to enable the "security.ssl3.rsa_rc2_40_md5" preference.   
      
      
   > It also seems the *used* help NGs are being watered down,   
   > divided between alt.fan.mozilla and   
   > netscape.public.mozilla.browser and....?   
      
   > ...so I'm cross posting this, pretty much in   
   > my percieved desperation to keep Usenet netscape alive.   
   >   
   > netscape.public.mozilla.browser,   
   > alt.fan.mozilla,   
   > alt.netscape,   
   > netscape.public.general,   
   >   
   > Any ideas for a new newsgroup name?   
   > or is it a terrible idea?   
      
   1.  Stick with alt.netscape.   
   2.  Use the existing netscape.* groups on Netscape's SSL news server.   
   3.  If these NGs seem dead, that is because Netscape seems dead.   
       Trying to create more newsgroups won't change that one jot.   
       It will only divide any remaining Netscape discussions.   
      
      
      
   --   
   Regards   
   Ralph   
      
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