From: gazelle@shell.xmission.com   
      
   In article <201220232313381523%nope@noway.com>, A Friend   wrote:   
   ...   
   >I've already suggested Thoth, a Mac newsreader that will do anything   
   >one needs it to do.  I don't think the author is supporting it anymore,   
   >but I've been using it for many years and have never needed support.   
   >I'm sure Thoth can be found in one or the other of the binaries groups.   
      
   FWIW, I've never heard of that (Thoth).  I'm not sure how you would get   
   (download) it.  I think I'd rather get it from some authorized site than   
   rely on a binaries newsgroup (which most servers, thanks to Cuomo, don't   
   even carry anymore).   
      
   Anyway, I would suggest, to our Mac-using friends, that they try out   
   Thunderbird.  Personally, I've never used it for Usenet news, since A) I   
   don't have a Mac (anymore) and B) I'm perfectly happy with Adam's choice of   
   tools (trn and Vim), but I've seen other people use it (on Windows and on   
   Linux, but I assume it works the same on Mac) and it seems to work pretty   
   well.  The point is that it has two things going for it, that less   
   sophisticated users will like:   
       1) It is GUI (unlike mine and Adam's choices)   
       2) The basic model should already be familiar since it builds on the   
   	idea of email - something most people should already be familiar with.   
   	I.e., most people (i.e., the people we are talking about here)   
   	really have no mental picture of how Usenet actually works, so when   
   	we discuss NNTP servers and stuff like that, their eyes glaze over.   
      
   But, having said all that, I now return to my previous statements that what   
   we really need is a non-Google replacement for Google.  It is good that   
   Google is saying bye-bye (and good riddance!), but for these people, a   
   web-based alternative still makes a lot of sense.   
      
   As one of my old nemeses in comp.lang.c was fond of saying, you need to   
   meet people where they are.   
      
   >It doesn't make sense to ask for a newsreader "that covers obituaries   
   >specifically."   
      
   Very true.   
      
   But, you can see where the idea is coming from.  They have suggested the   
   idea of just going to a site (such as the one mentioned by Mr. BS) that is   
   specifically (and exclusively) about obituaries.   
      
   --   
   If you ask a Trumper who is to blame for the debacle of Jan 6, they will   
   almost certainly say   
   something about Antifa/BLM/something/whatever. This shows just how screwed up   
   they are; they can't   
   even get their narrative straight. What they *should* say is "Eugene Goodman".   
   If not for him, the plot   
   would probably have succeeded, so he (Eugene) is clearly to blame for the   
   failure.   
      
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