From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Kenny McCormack  wrote:   
   >Big Mongo  wrote:   
   >>On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:18:22AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:   
   >>>On 24/01/2024 5:45 am, J.D. Baldwin wrote:   
      
   >>>>The operating philosophy is that the swiftness of the procedure is   
   >>>>more humane. And they definitely have a point.   
      
   >>>Usually the person on death row is some kind of cunt so not sure being   
   >>>humane is appropriate?   
      
   >>Fentanyl seems to be cheap and readily available.  Why not use that?   
      
   >>Simple, cheap, readily available & plentiful...  What the prob?  Why   
   >>over complicate things?   
      
   >Because, as I posted earlier, both sides have a vested interest in it being   
   >as gruesome as possible.  So, it will be thus.   
      
   I don't agree with you.   
      
   States in which execution is punishment are desperate to keep it, which   
   means it has to comply with the "cruel and unusual" standard so the   
   punishment isn't taken away by federal courts.   
      
   The three-drug protocol was intended not to be cruel. It's been used for   
   years because courts allowed it and haven't allowed other execution   
   methods to continue. The problem is that IV lines have to be set by   
   prison guards who aren't nurses nor paramedics and aren't experts in the   
   technique. Medical professionals are not allowed to participate in   
   executions per professional ethics.   
      
   That's why the executions keep getting botched. It's not because it's   
   intended to be cruel.   
      
   Also, the drug manufacturers refuse to make the drugs available for   
   executions.   
      
   >From all that I've heard, nitrogen is (i.e., would be) the best.   
   >Completely painless; you just fade away and never come back.   
      
   >And, again, from what I've heard, it is easy to administer.  You don't even   
   >really need a full sealed compartment.  My point is that anything with   
   >needles is going to be icky and ugly to administer.   
      
   The "spiritual advisor" was interviewed this morning, insisting there's   
   no protocol for this. But vets have been euthanising animals for decades   
   using this method. You make a calculation about how much to administer   
   based on weight.   
      
   The problem is the mask can slip off or the prisoner could force it off.   
   There aren't gas chambers any more and that "spiritual advisor"   
   shouldn't be standing there while the nitrogen is being administered.   
      
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