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|    Re: Bob Beckwith, fireman sharing Dubya'    |
|    05 Feb 24 16:01:02    |
      From: radioacti...@gmail.com              Referencing the massive Pestego forest fire up in Wisconsin on Sunday, October       8, 1871 whilst a blameless cow was supposedly (AND fictively) knocking over       that lantern in Mrs. O'Leary's barn on Chicago's North Side:              Quite right you are, Louis (as you almost invariably are factually), about how       while EVERYONE knows about the Chicago fire, just about no one talks about       Pestigo.              Though it's hard to quantify these things from the perspective of succeeding       centuries--both the famed Chicago fire and the still-obscure Pestigo one       started were in 1871, for Heaven's sake--by SOME historians' metrics, the       disaster up in Wisconsin was        actually MORE costly than the Chicago blaze! (Of course, the Wisconsin       catastrophe was rural--even TODAY that area is still sparsely populated--so       the toll in human lives was dwarfed by the Chi-town blaze, of course.) By the       way--one late 20th Century        theory, FAR from ever proven but fascinating nontheless, is that a streaking       meteor--not sure if it was going from over Illinois up to Wisconsin, or vice       versa--dropped smouldering remnants over Chicago AND the Wisconsin forest,       thus sparking BOTH fires!              Now while I first heard about the Chicago fire prior even to kindergarten--my       older brother AND parents talked about such things from time to time, and I       was a good listener even before I turned 6 in 1960--I didn't first learn about       the Pestego blaze        until an odd headline caught my eye as I paged though a book while in 3rd       Grade. The headline: "The Night of the Great Fires". My desk was at the rear       of Mrs. Bibee's 3rd grade class at Kennerly Elementary in late February       1964--while I was still        mentally processing what I had witnessed on CBS Television on Sunday night,       February 9th and then also the two following Sunday nights, to wit, that       fortnight of the three Beatles initial Sullivan show appearances. But teacher       Bibee was talking to the        class about something else, and I was tuning her out with my nose in the book.              Even 60 years later, I remember being STARTLED that I'd never heard of this       second, SAME-NIGHT fire only a couple hundred miles north of the Chicago fire,       which as I said above, had for years been part of my own body of collected       knowledge, if only        fragmentary. I distinctly recall thinking to myself, "Why oh why isn't this       mentioned EVERY TIME people cite the Great Chicago fire?!?" (Mrs. Bibee never       noticed I was tuning out whatever she was saying to the rest of the class.)              As you might imagine, that day after school when I got home, I went straight       to the World Book Encyclopedia entry on the Chicago fire, and found only       fleeting mention of the Pestigo blaze.              BUT: this remarkable incident in my young life taught me a VITAL lesson:        EVEN IF it's a reliable source (big "if" THERE, even back then), you simply       can't count on what you're reading to always tell you the complete story.        (I'm NOT saying that the        numerous previous times I'd heard about the Chicago fire from other       sources--print, TV or just some talkative adult--that they were SUPPRESSING       the vital Pestigo fire story; they were probably ignorant about it THEMSELVES,       but SOMEBODY I'd previously        heard about the Chicago fire from probably DID know about it, but just assumed       a 1st or 2nd grade kid didn't NEED or even WANT to know about it, so it never       came up.              Well, THIS kid ever since late 1957 or so at age 3 ALWAYS had a thirst for       factual knowledge (even if I didn't know the word "factual" yet), even if I       couldn't understand the nuances of it. Everyone I encountered in those days       seems to have sold me        intellectually short, and I'm STILL annoyed by that in 2024. Of course, I WAS       short then --about 4'6" in those days, far from my 5'11" topping out height       (long before old age shrunk me to my current 5"9")--but they still for some       inexcusable reason        always underestimated my even-in-childhood ability to grasp AND retain       supposedly "adult" information.              NOW, and in answer, Louis, to your French Revolution question:              That week when Captain Bligh was mutinied and Washington was inaugurated at       the end of April 1789 was ALSO the week the so-called Estates General       legislature was closing in on Paris, from the hinterlands all over France,       after having been called (for the        first time in well over a century, if memory serves) QUITE reluctantly by       Louis XVI, on the persistent advice of his advisors. By the time Washington       raised his hand on Wall Street across the Atlantic, they were already mostly       in town, many even already        at the Versailles palace about 15 miles to the southwest of Notre Dame.              Then on Tuesday, May 5th (exactly a week after the mayhem aboard The Bounty in       the South Pacific), the Estates General officially convened. Again, there was       much starting and stopping over these weeks, but on Saturday, June 20th the       die was finally cast        and there was no turning back...for that's the day the commoners locked out       the nobles inside the Royal tennis [indoor] tennis court and declared       themselves to be the REAL power in France. And of course on the first       Bastille Day (Tuesday, July 14, 1789),        after several days of low-level rioting through and beyond the weekend, they       stormed prison of The Bastille (only to learn to their dismay that all but six       prisoners had already been spirited out during the preceding weeks!).              And it must always be emphasized: when the tennis court was commandeered by       "the people", EVEN THE MOST RADICAL, revolution-minded participants were NOT       just then intending to overthrow Louis XVI, much less ever execute       him--rather, there were all about        just reforming everything about the monarchy. (The dismissal of detested       Finance Minister Necker would ease things a bit on Saturday, July 11th, but       not for long.) For sure, most of them despised pocket-watch-tinkerer hobbiest       [!] King Louis and all he        and his numerous Court cronies so royally stood for, yet NO one was just then       even dreaming that by Monday, January 21, 1793, they'd be chopping off his       head. (Meanwhile, cake-eating-recommender-NOT [her most infamous quote is one       of history's greatest        myths]) Queen Marie Antoinette wouldn't lose HER head until Wednesday, October       16, 1793. (And after many months in an 18th Century prison cell, she hardly       looked very regal by that bloody day, as contemporary witnesses confirm.)                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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