From: le@main.lekno.ws   
      
   Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   > Louis Epstein  wrote:   
   >>Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   >>>Aje RavenStar  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>. . .   
   >   
   >>>>Some may remember back in 2022 when Gilbert Gottfried's death was   
   >>>>announced.  I immediately hopped on Wikipedia to his listing to check   
   >>>>and managed to get a screen cap there of the report of his death, citing   
   >>>>a particular perverse cause of death (which I still strongly expect he   
   >>>>arranged to happen at least five minutes before the press release of the   
   >>>>news), just minutes before that particular claim was removed.  (Which I   
   >>>>posted on the AO facebook page)  So there are times (or at least once)   
   >>>>when Wikipedia was first with the valid news.   
   >   
   >>>You saw the death announcement, then put it in Wikipedia. Unless a   
   >>>family member updates the Wikipedia page directly, Wikipedia can never   
   >>>be first.   
   >   
   >>If a family member DOES update a page,   
   >>the officious Wikipedes will revert the announcement   
   >>and wait until someone who heard it from someone else   
   >>he believes posts it instead.   
   >   
   >>This goes for a family member announcing a death   
   >>OR correcting a false report of a death...if it   
   >>wasn't invented somewhere else by someone without   
   >>direct connection they don't want to hear it.   
   >   
   > If Wikipedia is edited in that outrageous manner, that true information   
   > from a first-hand source is rejected, that's in support of my position.   
      
   There's a company with a Wikipedia article that quotes its founder in   
   a NY Times article saying where he got the name for the company from.   
   That's a "reliable source" to them.   
      
   The man's grandson,CEO of the company and its controlling shareholder   
   (a family holding company mentioned nowhere in the Wiki article,but a   
   former customer of mine),telling me when I asked where they got the name   
   that the real answer was something else...that's off-limits to them   
   whether I or the CEO himself want to revise.   
      
   Recently a neighbor of mine died at her home in the township where she   
   and I have actually lived for decades,and her NY Times obit declared that   
   she died at her home in the neighboring town where our local post office is   
   located...and the NY Times printed,and insisted in the face of my offering   
   correction,that the death was confirmed by the town clerk of the "nearby"   
   town in which the death actually occurred...when deaths are by law recorded   
   by the town clerk of the town in which the death occurs,not nearby ones.   
   The Wikipedes regard the NYT's erroneous claim as the reliable source.   
      
   -=-=-   
   The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,   
   at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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