From: le@main.lekno.ws
Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Louis Epstein wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>David Carson wrote:
>>>>Sat, 27 Jul 2024 23:06:01 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein :
>
>>>>>>You don't get to declare the organic document not a constitution.
>
>>>>>Organic documents can be of varying degrees of effect and solemnity.
>
>>>>>If a more perfect union is desired a different type of document
>>>>>may be called for than an initially attempted option.
>
>>>>And yet you don't recognize that Alfred's last name is Pennyworth
>>>>because he had a different surname in his rookie year in the comics.
>
>>>I never ever knew his name was Pennyworth till much later. What was the
>>>original first name?
>
>>Alfred's the first name...his LAST name kept changing.
>
> I meant the original last name.
>
>>>I don't know this one.
>
>>Alfred originally introduced himself as the son of a butler
>>known as "Jarvis",and butlers/valets are usually known by their
>>surnames,viz. the equally fictional (Reginald) Jeeves and
>>(Mervyn) Bunter of Wodehouse and Sayers.
>>Thus,he was implicitly Alfred JARVIS.
>
> If what you are saying is correct, the character was not introduced with
> a first name and that's a retcon.
He introduced himself by his first name,
and gave his father's last name.
>>Not long after that some writer who didn't understand this
>>named him Alfred BEAGLE.
>
>>Decades after that,incidentally after the TV show was cancelled,
>>some other slouch decided he was Alfred PENNYWORTH.
>
> In the comic books, a movie, or the subsequent tv series?
The Pennyworth name was introduced in a comic,
the same as the previous names had been.
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