From: le@main.lekno.ws
Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Mig.Rhodes wrote:
>
>>Sir John William Frederic Nott, KCB, PC, who died 6 November, 2024, aged
>>92, was a National Liberal and Conservative politician who served as
>>Secretary of State for Defence from 1981 to 1983, during the Falklands
>>War.
>
>>He was born 1 February, 1932, to Richard Nott and his wife the former
>>Phyllis Francis, and was educated at Bradfield College and in 1952 was
>>commissioned as a regular officer in the 2nd Gurkha Rifles. He served in
>>the Malayan Emergency after a period of service with the Royal Scots. In
>>1956 he left the army to study law and economics at Trinity College,
>>Cambridge, where he was President of the Cambridge Union Society. He was
>>called to the bar at the Inner Temple in 1959.
>
>>In 1966 Nott was elected as a National Liberal and Conservative MP for
>>the Cornwall constituency of St Ives, the last person elected under the
>>National Liberal label. The party was formally absorbed into the
>>Conservatives in 1968, after which Nott sat as a Conservative MP. He was
>>the last surviving former National Liberal MP.
>
> I had to look this up. In 1931, a dissident faction within the Liberal
> Party broke away to form the Liberal National Party, joining with the
> Conservative Party against free trade and in support of protectionism.
> Anti free trade policies were one of several primary causes of WWII.
>
>>Nott served in the government of Edward Heath as Minister of State
>>at the Treasury.
>
> I'm so confused. I thought there was no such ministerial title because
> the Chancellor of the Exchequer had this responsibility.
The Chancellor is assisted by junior ministers,
the Chief Secretary to the Treasury,
the Financial Secretary to the Treasury,
the Economic Secretary to the Treasury,
and the Exchequer Secretary of the Treasury.
Aside from the Chief Secretary they are never of Cabinet rank.
Nott's former title of Minister of State for the Treasury has been
discontinued,for a time replaced by the Commercial Secretary to the
Treasury,a title sometimes of "Minister of State" rank (a rung below
the Cabinet) and sometimes "Parliamentary Under Secretary of the Treasury"
rank (a further rung below)...itself no longer in use.
The Paymaster General is nominally assigned to the Treasury but the
post is effectively a sinecure usually filled by the governing party's
chairman (much as the USA used to do with the Postmaster General).
None of these posts should be confused with either the Permanent Secretary
to the Treasury (the most senior civil servant of the department and the
second most senior in the UK most of the time) or the Parliamentary
Secretary of the Treasury (the government chief whip in the Commons).
The Parliamentary Secretary is assisted by the Treasurer,Comptroller,
and Vice-Chamberlain of the Household (MPs who coordinate the whips
and occasionally liase with the Lord Chamberlain of the Household
(an important courtier whose executive functions are often delegated
to the Master of the Household) but less so with the Lord Great
Chamberlain(a hereditary Great Officer of State))...below them are
the regular whips,titled Junior Lords of the Treasury(though their
status as members of the commission nominally jointly holding the
office of Lord High Treasurer,the Prime Minister being the First Lord
and the Chancellor of the Exchequer the Second Lord,is strictly titular...
when the First and Second Lords are discussing Treasury business the
Junior Lords are not entitled to be present,much less outvote them on
anything), and the assistant whips (who,along with the Parliamentary
Private Secretaries who assist ministers,are on the lowest level of
the government political payroll).
> (The Judicial/legislative office Lord Chancellor is separate.)
(Blair divested it of much of its former functions).
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