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   Louis Epstein to J.D. Baldwin   
   Re: Thomas Kurtz, co-creator of BASIC, 9   
   19 Nov 24 03:25:14   
   
   From: le@main.lekno.ws   
      
   J.D. Baldwin  wrote:   
   >   
   > In the previous article, Louis Epstein   wrote:   
   >> Having basically only worked in BASIC despite a collegiate exposure   
   >> to Fortran 77,what do you see as the advantages of these other   
   >> languages?   
   >   
   > It must be said that BASIC evolved over the years and Visual Basic in   
   > 2010 did not especially resembled Dartmouth BASIC in 1983.  That said:   
      
   My experience was mainly in the late 1970s,centered on Northstar BASIC   
   used for 8080 machines.   
      
   > #1 by far:  The modularity is built in.  "Subroutines" in (regular,   
   > original) BASIC are a kludgy hack at best.   
      
   I suppose they're what I was used to creating.   
      
   > Also on the list would be variable scoping, which concept kind of   
   > includes passing by reference vs. passing by value when calling   
   > functions.  Everything in BASIC was "global" -- and I am not of the   
   > prevailing opinion that (almost) nothing ever should be global, but   
   > *definitely* things should be local unless there is a good reason to   
   > the contrary.   
   >   
   > File handling in BASIC was an abomination.  Integration with other   
   > languages was nonexistent.  Pointers and memory handling were just not   
   > a thing.  Error handling was absolutely ghastly.  Comments were ugly   
   > to the point that they were semi-unreadable, which is really a bad   
   > thing for your code's *comments*.   
      
   I've never been much of a commenter...probably   
   related to my bias toward working in my head   
   rather than the "show all work" mentality that   
   cost me grades in college because it struck me   
   as semi-literate to spell out what you didn't   
   need to.   
      
   > It wasn't as bad as COBOL, at least.  That's the lowest bar ever set   
   > for anything, right there, but it's true.   
      
   Yet Grace Hopper was revered.   
      
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