From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   Louis Epstein  wrote:   
   >Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   >>Louis Epstein  wrote:   
   >>>Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   >>>>Travoltron  wrote:   
   >>>>>On 9/12/2025 6:15 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
      
   >>>>>>As far as "Charlie Kirk Christians", whatever you mean by that, gosh,   
   >>>>>>Baptists and Evangelicals themselves may not be anti-Semitic but that   
   >>>>>>doesn't mean they accept my religion.   
      
   >>>>>My mother and her side of the family are Christians. They've always   
   >>>>>treated me as an equal and have not once discriminated against me. I   
   >>>>>went to school in a rednecky town and they also never discriminated   
   >>>>>against me.   
      
   >>>>Fair enough, but that doesn't mean that Christians who truly believe   
   >>>>accept other religions.   
      
   >>>It is impossible to sincerely believe in any religion without   
   >>>regarding all others as in some respect incorrect or incomplete,   
   >>>as otherwise there would be no reason for one's own belief.   
      
   >>We stopped doing that, which is why we are a tiny religion. We may look   
   >>down on other religions because we are snobs, but we don't tell everyone   
   >>else that they are going to Hell if they don't worship like us. We don't   
   >>even require one to believe in God as a pre-requisite for being Jewish.   
   >>We don't tell others how to worship.   
      
   >This is covered by the "...or incomplete".   
   >You see there as being a reason not to believe as the others do,   
   >as their beliefs do not suffice for everyone.(Although if you   
   >don't see your beliefs as divinely sanctioned it's hard to   
   >justify holding them).   
      
   Sanctioned? Certainly not.   
      
   >>There's a bright-line distinction between being Jewish and being a   
   >>Christian (many but not all Protestants) who is required to prosyletize,   
   >>spread the Good News, as a religious tenet.   
      
   >>Now, the Lubavitchers prosyletize, but only to other Jews they don't   
   >>think are religious enough.   
      
   >There is something of a spectrum between pro-intermarriage Reform types   
   >who are happy to entertain converts and the strict Orthodox adherents of   
   >the Talmudic tenets saying that if someone approaches a rabbi with an   
   >interest in converting he must respond by giving reasons not to,and if   
   >the person approaches again to respond with more such reasons.   
      
   We still don't tell everyone else they are going to Hell. No one is   
   perfectly tolerant, but we are less intolerant than everyone else.   
      
   I think that's a big deal.   
      
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