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   J.D. Baldwin to le@lekno.ws   
   Re: Robinson charged, faces death penalt   
   23 Sep 25 19:41:33   
   
   From: INVALID_SEE_SIG@example.com.invalid   
      
   In the previous article, Louis Epstein   wrote:   
   > > Both counts of witness tampering relate to instructions Robinson   
   > > relayed to his live-in boyfriend, a transgender man, directing him   
   > > to delete his text messages and to stay silent if police   
   > > questioned him.   
   >   
   > [...]   
   >   
   > Is advising someone to exercise a Miranda right tampering?   
      
   No. But telling someone "Don't tell the police what you know about me   
   and the things I have admitted to you" is pretty far afield from what   
   Miranda dictates[1]. And asking someone to delete existing text   
   messages is definitely solicitation of evidence destruction, not at   
   all protected by any constitutional right.   
      
   [1] You're not talking about "Miranda rights," anyway, there really   
       isn't any such thing. Miranda is a court decision that says the   
       cops have to give you free legal advice before a "custodial"   
       questioning. Your Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights are completely   
       independent of, and pre-date, the Miranda decision.   
      
       (Which, BTW, wasn't even the point of the Miranda decision. It's a   
       bit of a long and weird story, but the affirmation of Miranda in   
       Dickerson v. U.S. is the real controlling law. One of the more   
       bizarrely nonsensical bits of jurisprudence to come out of the   
       Supreme Court, even by Warren Court standards.)   
   --   
   jd   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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