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   montymangum1228@gmail.com to Michelle Moreland Orlando   
   Re: TX Outlaw Frank Jackson   
   04 Feb 17 21:12:34   
   
   On Friday, March 28, 2003 at 2:06:16 PM UTC-7, Michelle Moreland Orlando wrote:   
   > My Great Grandmother was the first cousin of Outlaw Frank Jackson of   
   > the Sam Bass Gang. I have documented proof and the names of his   
   > parents and grandparents.   
   >    
   > Have done research on Frank and found lots of information.    
   > Has there yet been any new information on whether he died in a   
   > shoot-out in Mexico or  New Mexico  or did he change his name and   
   > raise a family?   
   >    
   > I have been contacted by people saying an elderly relative told them   
   > that Frank was their grandfather or great grandfather and he had   
   > changed his name and then they contact me trying to find out   
   > information. I can't help them unless they have his parents full names   
   > and grandparents. Had someone contact me just recently and I honestly   
   > can't help him since I don't know what really happened to Frank after   
   > he fled Texas.   
   >    
   > I wish I could find out what really happened to him and if he did   
   > change his name and raise a family, I have lots of family pictures and   
   > information on them to share with a proven family from a name change   
   > he made, if he did.   
   >    
   > Michelle Moreland Orlando   
      
   My grand father was raised on the WS ranch out of Alma NM in the mid/late   
   1890's. His father was a cook there. In the mid 1890's his father took his   
   family and left for Oklahoma. My Grand Father (Joe Mangum) and his older   
   brother (Tom Mangum)stayed    
   behind on the WS, which was owned by Montague Stevens (an Englishman).   
   Granddad was only 12 at the time, but he went to work for Stevens as a cowboy.   
   An older cowboy took a liking to young Joe and taught him all he knew about   
   cattle and horses. This    
   older cowboy went by the name of Bill Jackson. Bill had told my grandfather   
   that he was from Texas and had left Texas just ahead of the Texas Rangers. He   
   had come to the New Mexico Territory with his brother, from the Denton area.   
   Granddad said Bill    
   Jackson was a top hand and very good with a six shooter. He was a great friend   
   to my grand father. After the WS went into receivership, Bill Jackson ranch in   
   eastern Arizona and western NM.It has always been believed by our family that   
   Bill Jackson was    
   actually Frank Jackson. His brother went by the name of John Gatling. John had   
   been crippled by a shotgun blast to the back, by none other then Pat Garrett,   
   when Garrett mistook him for an outlaw he was looking for. Garrett was asked   
   in not such a nice    
   way to leave Arizona and never come back. When my father was just a boy (he is   
   now 87)he travelled with my grand father to Globe Arizona to visit Jackson   
   widow. I have little to go by accept the stories repeated by my father of   
   things his dad told him,    
   by we believe Bill Jackson, was Frank Jackson who survived the Round Rock   
   shoot, returned to the Denton area and got his brother who went with him to   
   the New Mexico/Arizona Territory and lived his life out as a cowboy/rancher in   
   that area. Jackson made    
   my Grandfathers first pair of boots from and old pair that he had and my   
   grandfather wrote in his journal that the lasted several years with much care.   
      
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