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   Message 798 of 1,275   
   George Kincaid to All   
   Re: Cowboy Question   
   29 Apr 05 00:10:52   
   
   From: george.kincaid@worldnet.att.net   
      
   Never as simple as it seems, is it? Military, diplomatic and ethnic conflict   
   were involved in the raiding patterns, not just staging attacks on property   
   or for revenge. There were migrations to escape depredations within   
   Mexico--and there was no central authority south of the border strong enough   
   to stop the problems. I guess the US and state authorities in the Southwest   
   accepted the migrations of Mexicans without much of a protest.  Carranza was   
   trying a form of "ethnic cleansing", then? A frightening thought...Thanks.   
   "Wyvern75"  wrote in message   
   news:1114720827.715177.120590@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...   
   > < raid's in the 1910s, but that was part of a long pattern then.   
   > Interesting set of relationships down there.>>   
   >   
   > The Border Raids during the Republic were a continuation of the Texas   
   > War of Independence.  Mexico, after going through a minor civil war,   
   > decided that it needed unity and attacking Texas was one of the ways to   
   > achieve that.  There was also the boundary dispute over the Rio Grande   
   > as accepted in the Treaty of Surrender and the Nueches.  Once Texas   
   > joined the United States, Mexico ceased raiding across the border.   
   >   
   > During and after the American Civil War, the Apaches raided across the   
   > Rio Grande.  The French supported government was not in a position to   
   > stop the raids.  4th Cavalry under McKenzie took care of those raiders.   
   > In the 1880s the US Cavalry also raided into Sonora because the   
   > Mexican Army wasn't capable of fighting the Apaches.  While the   
   > Mexicans protested, they still let the Americans suppress the Apache   
   > threat (which was to both sides of the border) unopposed.   
   >   
   > The border raids of 1910-1920 were planned and directed by Mexico's   
   > president Venustiano Carranza.  This not only included Pancho Villa,   
   > but also Mexican soldiers dressed as civilians.  At the time there were   
   > a very small number of "whites" on the border and these people were   
   > targeted for elimination by Carranza.  The actions of the local "   
   > Mexican population" like leaving without warning and in some cases   
   > pointing out their "white neighbors" left a very bad feeling and a   
   > subsequent repression/payback from the whites, Texas Rangers and U.S.   
   > Army   
   >   
      
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