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   Message 896 of 1,275   
   Arrow Catcher to der Blitsen   
   Re: Brokeback Mountain   
   15 Dec 05 21:47:00   
   
   On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:50:10 -0600, jinglehead@dontemailme.com (Don   
   der Blitsen) wrote:   
      
   >ESPECIALLY considering the FACT that it was not uncommon to   
   >have dances where men danced with each other, and not uncommon   
   >for men to share the same bed. Whether or not there was   
   >sex in such instances - well - as was said - hard to believe   
   >otherwise!   
      
   Moreover, it seems that Native Americans posed one other "threat" to   
   European invaders.  Writer Victor Tixier lived with the Osage in   
   1839-40. When bathing in the river with Osage men, he reported:   
      
   "The warriors bothered us with indiscreet questions... If we swam   
   along beside them, they asked us to let them examine our bodies; we   
   had to tell them very sternly to be of more decent behavior."   
      
   In his writings Tixier was clearly irritated by their "habits of   
   sodomy, which their curiosity seemed to announce and which they   
   exercise, according to what they say, on their prisoners. These sons   
   of nature are extremely lascivious."   
      
   Many but not all American Indian nations defined 5 genders as opposed   
   to the naive binary male-female Anglo-European system. The expression   
   "cowboys and indians" takes on whole new meanings in the wild   
   frontier.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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