From: woodchuck@wouldchuck.com   
      
   On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 04:16:41 -0600, rgraham18@sbcglobal.net wrote   
   (in article ):   
      
   > Well I have no clue how it worked back in the frontier. But I was in the air   
   > force as an SP. If a military member was arrested off base for a civilian   
   > crime. They were charged in that county/states civilian court. The military   
   > can also tack on their own charges under the UCMJ.But in a nut shell if your   
   > arrested by civilian authorities. Its no different than anyone else being   
   > arrested. If the military member is in jail. The unit's first sgt. checks on   
   > the person and can even bond them out if they so choose. IF civilian police   
   > come to a base with an arrest warrant or search warrant. the base military   
   > police escort them and standby with them as they do their job. All cases I   
   > was involved in, the unit commander or first sgt. of the person in trouble   
   > was also contacted. Plus the military can provide them with a military   
   > lawyer. Which I might add its their job to make sure the person's rights are   
   > not violated. Its not their job to make sure their client is found not   
   > guilty. Now if its in a foreign country things get a tad shady. When I was   
   > in the middle east. The saudi civilian police came on base and was wanting   
   > to arrest a guy who had sex with a local he was not married to. If he was   
   > convicted in their civilian court for ruining this woman and her families   
   > reputation. The father, brother or some such could kill the guy to get their   
   > honor back. So while the military SP's were "trying" to assist the civilian   
   > police. The guys first sgt. took him to the flight line and loaded him on a   
   > plane out of the country ASAP. His belongings were shipped later. Now his   
   > unit commander could take action against him but he wasn't gonna get excuted   
   > for having consentual sex with a woman over 18. Also when I was in germany   
   > we'd go to the german civilian police jail and pickup military members who   
   > had been arrested by them. Most of the time for being drunk and fighting the   
   > civilian authorities would release them to the military and the unit   
   > commander would deal with them. If it was something serious, then they were   
   > stuck dealing with the german civilian courts like anyone else. oooh forgot   
   > if civilian   
   > police arrive at a military base with a search warrant. The base legal   
   > office reviews it to make sure its all legal and stuff. All cases like this   
   > I was involved in. It was all prearranged and worked out by the civilian   
   > proscuting attorney and the base legal office. So all we did was standby   
   > with the civilian police while they did their job. The thing is the base   
   > commander has a lot of descretion in such matters.   
   > The base commander would speak with the senior military legal advisor   
   > they have. Then decide on what action to take. It sounds a lot more   
   > complicated than it is. Their was always someone on call from the legal   
   > office. If it was really serious for the base commander to get involved then   
   > he would bring along the officer (military lawyer) that is in command of the   
   > base legal office to advise him/her. Hope that helps some.  :-)   
   >   
   >   
      
   Thanks for this. You have some great stories. I would have thanked you   
   sooner, but I've been traveling. A follow-up (realizing we're talking about   
   your experiences now and not necessarily frontier times): how much time do   
   soldiers get off the base? I don't mean formal leave when they can leave   
   town, but simply the hours they can spend in adjoining communities haunting   
   watering holes, visiting girlfriends, or doing whatever else strikes their   
   fancy?   
      
   Woody   
      
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