William Ove wrote:   
   > In <3fa71e36$0$58699$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> m4rcone@xs4a11.nl wrote:   
   >> No, what I'm saying is that 'bitrate' is nothing more than the number   
   >> of bits per second. If your file is 5 minutes long, and is truly   
   >> encoded at 128 kbit, then it should be 5*60*128*1000 bits in length,   
   >> which would be 4800000 bytes. It's as simple as that. If that same   
   >> 5-minute file encoded to Ogg Vorbis is 10% smaller, then its bitrate   
   >> is not 128 kbit/sec.   
   >   
   > The above information is not correct. Bitrate refers to sampling of data   
   > and is not a reference to data size.   
      
   You are mistaken. "bitrate" quitte literally means the rate at which   
   bits pass through a system. The unit of bitrate is bits-per-second.   
   A file with a known duration and bitrate therefore also has a known   
   size, as the size can simply be obtained by multiplying the bitrate   
   by the duration (bits/sec * secs yields bits, a measure of size)   
      
   > Ogg Vorbis is as are MP3 and ACC   
   > compression schemes. For any given sampling rate the relative size of   
   > the file produced by the different formats is dependent on the   
   > efficiency of the compression algorithms.   
      
   "sampling rate" means the number of audio samples per second, and is   
   completely independent of the bitrate.   
      
   > As with any compressed analog data there will be an eternal debate   
   > concerning the trade-offs between quality and file size. But to infer   
   > that because a Ogg file is smaller than MP3 file it is sampled at a   
   > lower rate is wrong.   
      
   Indeed, and I never claimed otherwise. "sampling rate" and "bitrate"   
   are two completely different things. I was talking about "bitrate",   
   and if an ogg file of a given duration is smaller than an mp3 file   
   of that same duration, then the ogg file has a lower BITrate than   
   the mp3 file, even if they have the same SAMPLErate.   
      
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