XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   XPost: alt.os.linux.redhat   
   From: liam@NOSPAM.liamslider.com   
      
   On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:11:54 -0800, imouttahere wrote:   
      
   >>GNOME is so simple to use anyone could use it.   
   >   
   > That's not quite under dispute. MacOS 6.0 was also simple to use, 15   
   > years ago. The issue is one of modern functionality.   
      
   The hell!?   
      
   >How well does the   
   > system sleep and wake up?   
      
   Very well.   
      
   > How easy is it to use 802.11, share stuff   
   > over the network.   
      
   This is *extremely* easy. Especially in GNOME.   
      
   >How well does the OS manage power for portables?   
      
   Well enough.   
      
   >   
   > Macs have the great advantage of having both the OS and hardware   
   > designed for each other.   
   > Windows has this to some extent, though of course Microsoft has a hard   
   > time keeping OEMs in line.   
      
   "Keeping OEMs in line" eh? Microsoft does not *own* the hardware platform,   
   nor have they ever had the right to dictate it. Their pushing around of   
   OEMs has entirely been illegal.   
      
   >   
   > Linux IMV is perpetually wrong-footed in this area, chasing the hardware   
   > but never quite managing it.   
      
   Chasing? We've been *locked out* by illegal activity of Microsoft's!   
      
   >   
   > It's be great to have dedicated Linux hardware but this seems counter to   
   > Linux's least-common-denominator strategy of hardware support.   
      
   "Least-common-denominator"? You're pushing into insulting.   
      
      
   >   
   >>I don't get the Linux bashing by Mac people.   
   >   
   > Indeed. Apple owes a lot to the GNU/Linux community.   
      
      
   A hell of a lot. Like your nice and shiny Safari browser for one.   
      
      
   >   
   > However, we do get sensitive about people making claims that Linux is as   
   > good as OS X.   
      
   We get sensative about Maccies spreading old, untrue sterotypes about   
   Linux too.   
      
   >   
   > For one thing, the linux environment lacks anything as clean as OS X's   
   > window server, its font rasterizer, multimonitor support, etc.   
      
   These are completely untrue.   
      
   >   
   > The Linux community tends to punt the hard problems and then ignore   
   > them,   
      
   Another insult without foundation.   
      
   > or, worse, look to what Microsoft has done and slavishly copy   
   > them.   
      
      
   And this is completely insulting. Do you know how many Linux things   
   Microsoft has tried to *badly* copy over the years?   
      
      
   >   
   > Apple pays a lot of people a lot of money to tackle these issues and   
   > solve them.   
      
   You don't think there are a lot of people in the Linux community paid a   
   lot of money to do that too?   
      
   >   
   >> You should be bashing Windows.   
   >   
   > We do that too :)   
      
   My point being, you should concentrate on them, and stop bashing us with   
   all the untrue bullshit. The vast, overwhelming majority of us don't bash   
   you guys. Except in cases of extreme retardation....like Oxford.   
      
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