XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.advocacy
XPost: alt.os.linux.redhat
From: liam@NOSPAM.liamslider.com
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:50:44 +0000, Timberwoof wrote:
> In article ,
> Liam Slider wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:21:40 +0000, Brent wrote:
>>
>> > On 2/13/05 12:32 AM, in article
>> > pan.2005.02.13.05.32.50.593621@NOSPAM.liamslider.com, "Liam Slider"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I haven't exactly used OSX. However I can tell you a bit about
>> >> Linux. The whole "fiddling with config files" claim is pretty damn
>> >> well a thing of the distant past, unless you like fiddling with
>> >> config files. Consistancy that Mac users brag about is there. Linux
>> >> is usually easy to install, in fact there was a recent comparison of
>> >> installations between Windows, OSX, and Linux, and Linux was
>> >> considered comparable to OSX. Ease of use is there, GNOME is so
>> >> simple to use anyone could use it. I'd compare it quite well as a DE
>> >> with how I've heard Macs describes, and GNOME follows strict HiG as
>> >> well....just like OSX does. Linux gets more life out of old
>> >> hardware, just as Apple claims to.
>> >
>> > Comparing Ubuntu Linux and YDL on a PPC Mac to OSX, I find the OSX
>> > has much more easy functionality plus a terminal window to boot. The
>> > Linux is smaller, and runs better on my G3 Pismo laptop than OSX,
>> > though OS9 was pretty good on the laptop.
>>
>>
>> Well, I was talking about on x86...but damn, no terminal window? WTF?
>
> Steve;s original vision for the Mac was "no command line" and that
> pretty much stayed with that OS to the end. But to be fair, MPW
> (Macintosh Programmer's Workshop) did have a fairly powerful command
> line interface.
Yeah, but he's talking about a PPC Linux having no command line, and
that's just confusing as hell.
>> > I am using Linux to extend the life of my laptop computer - and it
>> > seems to work pretty well. I have trouble with getting 24 bit color
>> > (millions of colors) in graphics and getting CD's to play. OSX and
>> > OS9 did not have these issues at all - and the ease of setup were
>> > good things.
>>
>> Never had either of these problems with x86 hardware.
>>
>>
>> > I am also able to use a command line in OSX.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I still have to give a, "WTF!?"
>
> Hunh? Would you clarify the reasons for that? I don't dare make any
> assumptions about what you mean here.
The reasons are, that he's been saying that on the Linux he was
running...no command line.
>> > I do not find Linux comparable to OSX, at least in my case. Linux is
>> > smaller, speedier on the same hardware, but does not have the same
>> > amount of polish without a LOT of end user work. And in my case, I
>> > may never get the full functionality out the my computer due to the
>> > drivers' availability!
>> >
>> > I will still use Linux on the laptop, but my desktop is remaining
>> > OSX.
>>
>>
>> I'm guessing, just guessing from *all* the reports, that Linux is just
>> a lot less polished on PPC hardware than it is on x86 hardware. I guess
>> it'll have to catch up if we want to snag Mac users.
>
> Yellow Dog Linux is a port of Red Hat Linux. They do a good job of
> keeping it up to date. I don't think it's an issue of PPC/x86 hardware.
> Linux, even in the coolest, most recent RedHat or SuSe incarnation, has
> this rough-edged clunkiness to it -- something that a software engineer
> might not see, but that someone with a background in UI design or QA
> would definitely see.
Please. I have seen complaint after complaint about PPC Linux that simply
do not crop up any more on modern x86 distros.
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