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   XPost: alt.os.linux.mandrake   
   From: earlcp@idirect.com   
      
   Earl Colby Pottinger :   
      
   > Jøhnny Fävòrítê (it means "halo, then resonate") :   
   >> if you can stand linux, it would make an okay choice. personally i   
   >> couldn't. way too fiddly and difficult. every little thing required   
   >> editing a config file somewhere with tortured, impossible syntax. and   
   >> all the dependency issues. bleargh, not for me.   
      
   > Strange, I don't like Linux myself but I know lots of users who in no way   
   > find it that hard. Sounds like you used Linux in the 199x's and have not   
   > seen a recent version.   
      
   Well Jøhnny, it looks like I have to take back what I said about Linux not   
   matter what my friends have said lately. It looks like you were right.   
   Linux is still a pain to configure compared to what it should be.   
      
   Gregory Hansen asked some questions about configuring his system and the   
   answers were all that I knew in the past was wrong with Linux and I had   
   thought was fix now.   
      
   When he asked: How do I tell Mandrake that I have a modem?   
      
   The answers were to be selective of hardware (I understand why that), not to   
   use a winmodem if possible (Boy do I understand that!), where to get a   
   winmodem driver if really needed (Ugh!) and finally to go to the Control   
   Center to configure it. I think some detail was lacking there as the name   
   'Control Center' does not suggest modems to me - what is needed after?   
      
   In comparision under BeOS I would tell a preson to go starting from /Boot go   
   to Preferences then DialUpNetworking, the modem settings will be in plain   
   sight at that point. What really seem strange to me is it is not implied   
   that Linux out of the box is already configured for a plain jane Hayes-Type   
   modem hookup unlike just about every other OS I have used.   
      
   When he asked: I couldn't figure out how to tell Mandrake to take my monitor   
   out of   
   strobe light mode, either. It does 800x600 fine but doesn't give options   
   for refresh rate and just sticks it in 60 Hz.   
      
   Answer: Open a console, type 'gtf 800 600 80' for 80MHz refresh rate.   
      
   What the @#$%^&* is this? GTF? The Linux idiots are still using stupid files   
   names like this - now how is a user suppose to know this without digging thru   
   a ton of manuals. BeOS - in the preferences folder the needed file is called   
   'Screen', on the Amiga 'ScreenModes', Windows 'Display', etc. Why does Linux   
   use files names that say nothing about thier function? Not even an alias to   
   a useful file name.   
      
   Next the answer is continued with:   
      
   Get the modeline, put it in /etc/X11/XF86Config under "Modes" (do the same   
   for all modes you're interested in using) by copy/paste (you'll have to use   
   the drop down menu in the console, as ctrl-c does not work). Then set the   
   proper resolution under the "Screen" section, using the exact wording in   
   parenthesis from the modeline, which is probably "800x600_80", or something   
   similar for all color depths. Get rid of the ordinary references in the   
   "Screen" section. Restart X, and you'll have 80MHz refresh rates @ 800x600.   
   You'll have to edit XF86Config as root, of course. Keep a working copy saved,   
   in case something doesn't go right and you have to restore it. BTW, I used   
   80MHz as a reference, but check your monitor's specs for what it supports.   
      
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   This is an easy to use OS? Why can't he save his current setting from GTF   
   after running it? Why does the config file not have common display modes   
   that run most displays and thus the screen control program displays them for   
   him to choose what he wants? Adding the special display modes of your   
   personal monitor to a config file I understand, not having the basic modes   
   already on file seems very strange and limiting to me.   
      
    Earl Colby Pottinger   
      
      
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