From: muta...@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 7:43:55 AM UTC+10, Joe Monk wrote:   
      
   > > If it turns out that it is necessary for even an *application*   
   > > to be burdened by a whole lot of TCP/IP shit just to cope   
   > > with incoming or outgoing glorified modem connections,   
   > > when multi-user/multitasking is involved, so be it.   
   > >   
   > NNTP is a TCP application. So it needs TCP/IP.   
      
   As far as I can tell, that is not true.   
      
   I am aiming to have a news reader that does:   
      
   fopen("nntp://eternal-september.org", "r+");   
      
   and then answers the various prompts using pure C90   
   functions.   
      
   I'm even going to have the above running in EBCDIC   
   using S/370 instructions and let the modem translate   
   into ASCII as Eternal September is expecting.   
      
   It is true that my modem will internally use TCP/IP   
   instead of dial tones, but I have no reason to care   
   about that. Nor do I care if TCP/IP gets replaced   
   by XYZ, or even back to dial tones. Or be entirely   
   bluetooth-based.   
      
   They have managed to make what is a glorified BBS   
   ridiculously complicated.   
      
   BFN. Paul.   
      
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