From: muta...@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 7:30:24 AM UTC+10, Joe Monk wrote:   
      
   > > No, they're not. There's some company I've forgotten   
   > > the name of, based in Switzerland I think, Lazarus or   
   > > something, and there is Jujitsu.   
      
   > Youre of course referring to LZLabs, which is 100% virtual. No actual   
   hardware.   
      
   That's a weird definition. Software requires hardware   
   to run on. It's true that there are more layers than   
   just microcode like IBM use. And thus slower. So?   
   That doesn't stop them from being a mainframe   
   vendor.   
      
   > Jiujitsu, of course, doesnt make anything. Everything they   
   > have is vaporware, the pipe dreams of some guy.   
      
   None of it is vaporware. You can download it all already,   
   and it has been available for literally decades.   
      
   BFN. Paul.   
      
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