From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net
In article <7b9aa448-d583-4d1c-a93e-510c82303715n@googlegroups.com>,
muta...@gmail.com wrote:
>On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 4:19:28 AM UTC+8, Dan Cross wrote:
>> >> >Communists are very good at the "to each according to
>> >> >their need" (and they always "need" a lot), but when it
>> >> >comes to "from each according to their ability", they all
>> >> >suddenly have sore backs.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now that PDOS exists I can point them to it and say "ok,
>> >> >you love communism - what can you contribute according
>> >> >to your ability - documentation? testing?".
>> >> >
>> >> >Of course they're not going to contribute anything.
>> >> >
>> >> >I just want to show them up for being slimebag commies.
>> >
>> >> Have you considered that people may not want to contribute to
>> >> your project because they don't want to work with you, or find
>> >> it technically substandard, or aren't interested in spending
>> >> time on an eighth-baked toy?
>> >
>> >It's just an example. They can write their own public
>> >domain OS, or do something else to benefit the world.
>> >They don't need a communist government to force
>> >them to do that.
>
>> Except your "example" doesn't follow; it's specious. Your
>> statement amounted to suggesting that people who don't
>> contribute to your hobby project should be "called out" because
>> they're communists, while failing to consider that maybe they
>> just don't want to work with you because you behave like a
>> petulent child.
>
>I made no such statement. That's just bullshit you made up.
It's quoted right there.
>> >> >And the commies can improve PDOS for free. Or rather,
>> >> >be called out for not doing that.
>> >
>> >> So you're suggesting that anyone who's not interested in working
>> >> on your little toy hobby project should be "called out"?
>> >
>> >No. Commies should be called out for insisting that they
>> >need a communist government, because Marx's ideals
>> >can't be satisfied under a capitalist system.
>
>> No, what you said is that, "the commies can ... be called out
>> for not doing that [improving PDOS]."
>
>You misunderstood. When commies complain about
>Microsoft etc and we need a communist government,
>I will challenge them to show me what is preventing
>them from following Marx within the capitalist system.
>
>PDOS is something I can point them to AS AN EXAMPLE.
And they might turn around and say, "and work with that
whackjob? No thanks."
>If they counter "oh - i never realized i could contribute
>according to my ability - and i have the ability to cure
>cancer - i'll develop it over the next 30 years for free",
>that's perfectly fine. And another demonstration of
>living up to Marx's fantasy world without needing to
>impose communism on everyone.
You seem overly fixated on communism. It's honestly kind of
weird.
>[snip random drivel]
>BTW, Linas made a similar claim about Linux. That it
>would never be as good as SCO.
Linus said that about GNU, not SCO.
>> seriously as any kind of "challenge" to, well, anything.
>>
>> Because it's not. Because it is a toy.
>
>Again - what you are calling a "toy" is all the public actually
>owns.
Collective ownership: what a communist idea.
>And that "toy" still allows you to develop a replacement
>OS more to your liking in a high level language.
So does Linux. Or FreeBSD. Or, for that matter, Windows.
>If that's a "toy" to you - fine, I don't really care what a
>slimebag pseudo-commie like you thinks. Other than
>I want to make sure your bullshit is countered in the
>free marketplace of ideas.
I think I've sufficiently demonstrated that you're wrong on the
merits that I can bow out now. Have fun!
- Dan C.
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