From: nowhere@never.at   
      
   On 16/11/2023 17:18, James Harris wrote:   
   > On 16/11/2023 06:53, wolfgang kern wrote:   
   >> On 15/11/2023 15:43, James Harris wrote:   
   >>> On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 11:23:53 UTC, James Harris wrote:   
   >>>> "wolfgang kern"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:mba6dr$29p$2...@speranza.aioe.org...   
   >>   
   >>> Hello, again, Wolfgang et al.   
   >>   
   >> Hi James,   
   >>   time passed by but we are still alive, me at least particular.   
   >> interesting that old posts are archived for that long.   
   >   
   > Google bought Deja and has lengthy archives of a.o.d with, fortunately,   
   > the ability still to respond to old threads.   
   >   
   > I hope Google will keep them indefinitely; there has been some great   
   > content on this newsgroup over the years and I still refer back to it   
   > from time to time.   
   >   
   >> but this whole story became obsolete now because of UEFI.   
   >   
   > UEFI is needed for some machines but there are lots which still boot via   
   > the BIOS.   
   >   
   > If you want to boot a UEFI-only PC you don't personally have to use   
   > UEFI. You could use someone else's bootloader. Grub is perhaps best known.   
   >   
   > I am no fan of Grub but AISI ideally one's OS could be booted from BIOS,   
   > PXE, Grub, UEFI, etc.   
      
   I don't like LILO nor GRUB, I want to have my own code running :)   
      
      
   >> I would restart my OS on UEFI if I find someone who can translate all   
   >> the in the UEFI-docs ...   
   >   
   > Yes, the UEFI docs are massive. And IMO the contents are obscure even   
   > for a C programmer!   
      
   true.   
      
   >> I never will learn C anyway, but perhaps only short key hints are   
   >> enough to let me see how structs and parameter size/type look in reality.   
   >   
   > Is there an existing thread on it? I don't see one.   
      
   There were a few lines on it in other threads, but no there isn't a   
   UEFI->HEX thread yet.   
      
   > A few months ago, as I wanted to support UEFI boot via my own bootloader   
   > I looked into it - and found it horrendously complicated. To make   
   > matters worse my test environment was hugely uninformative. Most of the   
   > time I couldn't even tell whether my code had been booted or not.   
   >   
   > I did, however, eventually get it working. As a result I have a Hello   
   > World UEFI program written in assembly. I can share the details if you   
   > like but it needs a thread of its own.   
   >   
   > I also got working a program which went further along the boot process.   
   > It interrogated the file system and successfully found a kernel file to   
   > load. That's in C but it's enough to help show how to convert to asm.   
      
   I'd appreciate you for any hint on this conversion, but nothing in C.   
      
   > At that point I'd done enough to convince me I could get it working so I   
   > moved on to other things but if you are interested I could dig it out.   
   > Like you, I don't want to have a C version. It was only to help me get   
   > started. Longer term I would have the UEFI bootloader in pure asm or in   
   > asm and my own language.   
   >   
   > UEFI can be mastered!   
      
   Yes I think that too, even enduring by lots of obstacles.   
   I don't want a copy of your code, all I need is info:   
      
   how would C-declarations/parameter-structs look on my HEX-dump.   
   is there any easy short worded hint available for conversion ?   
   __   
   wolfgang   
      
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