From: telcontar@duck.com   
      
   On 20.12.2022 at 18:10, Killadebug scribbled:   
      
   > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 17:36:25 +0100, Aragorn wrote:   
   >    
   > > I use KMail for email, but I use Claws Mail for Usenet.  I would   
   > > have preferred Pan, but Pan appears to be very unstable in Manjaro   
   > > — it's a package we pull in directly from Arch.  I've tried   
   > > building it from (Arch's) sources on my own computer, but the   
   > > result was the same; it crashes upon downloading the headers when   
   > > freshly subscribing to a newsgroup.   
   >    
   > Just curious what version of Pan you tried out. I'm using Pan 0.145   
   > on LMDE 5 and it is pretty solid so far, no crashes, no loading or   
   > posting issues. I cannot say the same for Pan 0.146, that is pretty   
   > buggy, one of the biggest issues with it is I cannot post to a   
   > newsgroup either a followup or new post. So I've locked my system to   
   > stay on Pan 0.145.   
      
   Oh gosh, I don't remember the version anymore.  That was way back in May   
   2019, after I had just installed Manjaro.  I came from several years   
   of PCLinuxOS at that point in time, where I had been using Pan without   
   any problems — I liked its filtering, and how easy it was to edit the   
   score file.     
      
   But back then, Pan on Manjaro was problematic, and it appeared as if I   
   was also the only person on the support forum who actually still   
   monitored Usenet — I doubt whether that will have changed in the   
   meantime — so I couldn't really get any advice or support there.     
      
   I was also not involved with Manjaro itself yet at that point, and thus   
   I also didn't know that the Pan in the Manjaro repository was simply the   
   Arch package that was literally imported.  But I was given the advice   
   by a now former staff member to try the version in the AUR — the Arch   
   User Repository, which contains user-maintained build scripts that pull   
   in the upstream sources, whatever the upstream may be — and so I built   
   it from scratch, but it was still just as broken as the one from the   
   binary package.   
      
   I then tried Thunderbird as an alternative for a while, but like I   
   said, Thunderbird is a horrible newsreader — even though it supports   
   Usenet, it was never designed to be anything more than an email client.   
   And then that's when I installed Claws Mail.  It's not that great as a   
   newsreader either, but at least it's usable, and it's better than   
   Thunderbird.   
      
   --    
   With respect,   
   = Aragorn =   
      
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