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   From: dan@djph.net   
      
   ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.]   
   On 2023-09-08, Big Al wrote:   
   > On 9/8/23 08:18, this is what Henry Crun wrote:   
   >>   
   >> I am gradually moving laptop...netbook...eventully desktop from Ub.   
   >> to MX. Very smooth learning curve, some advantages, some   
   >> disadvantages. On Ubuntu I have been running for about  year with no   
   >> snap or flatpak. If only I could avoid the horror that is systemd. We   
   >> are supposed to have choice, but to choose 'no systemd' immediately   
   >> implies 'not Ubuntu' Pity 'bout that.   
   >>   
   > Can you explain the issue with systemd?   I think Linux Mint uses it   
   > and I haven't seen any apparent issues.   
      
   It's one of those things that, if it's all you've used will probably not   
   be all that easy to grasp (for example, my take with Pulse Audio was   
   similar).   
      
   Personally, I'm not much a fan of their binary logging, or how it can   
   get in the way of applications like screen or tmux (or even nohup).  The   
   general pervasiveness and expansion of "systemd-anotherthingd" doesn't   
   really instill confidence either.   
      
   It's either going to turn out to be one of those things that in 10 years   
   we'll collectively "forget" was a problem, either because there's a   
   schism in the general Linux community that's too great to bridge; or   
   because something soured distro decision makers against it enough that   
   they've moved on.   
      
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