From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On 1/19/2024 8:25 PM, rbowman wrote:   
   > On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:31:55 -0500, Paul wrote:   
   >>> It has a SSD. I only reboot to apply an update. First you watch screens   
   >>> saying '2% complete' that warn you it may reboot several times. That   
   >>> goes on forever. When you finally can log in you get 'Hi. Getting   
   >>> things ready for you'. That's good for a couple of more minutes. I   
   >>> usually hit Restart and go to lunch.   
   >>   
   >> You have a failing Upgrade in the pipe ?   
   >   
   > Only once. A 'Windows Next' patch slipped out from the Windows 12 branch.   
   > It failed on Windows 11 of course. While you can defer automatic updates   
   > for 18 hours you can't turn it off completely so every night it would try   
   > again and fail.   
   >   
   > Again, the machine is on the Insiders program so an update occurs about   
   > once a week. The normal channel updates are a lot less frequent but still   
   > take much longer than Linux.   
   >   
      
   The Insider program, those are Upgrades once a week. Each week,   
   you're getting a different version of OS. That's actually an easier level   
   to patch at. The difference is, you are migrating all the applications   
   from one OS version to the next, and that takes time. If your Insider had   
   a lot of programs installed by you, each of those could be pretty slow.   
   Each week, it is writing out a Windows.old of 15-20GB.   
      
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       ^^^^^   
     Upgrade ^^^   
             Update   
      
   When Windows installs files during an Update, unlike Linux, some of the   
   files have unresolved dependencies, and there can be a "pool of garbage"   
   floating in the machine. This is why Cumulatives from two years ago,   
   can suddenly be seen listed as having "just installed". The way they   
   manage the computer, is at a different level of granularity than Linux.   
   And at its base, there is an O(N^2) aspect to it they cannot hide.   
      
      Paul   
      
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