XPost: alt.os.linux.mint, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 1/24/2025 3:55 AM, David wrote:   
   > On 24/01/2025 07:40, Paul wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote:   
   >>> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote:   
   >>>> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote:   
   >>>>> BDB wrote:   
   >>>>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of   
   Windows 10!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> 22H2     General Availability Channel     2022-10-18       
   2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> *I still have no sound*.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What would you like me to try now?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the Hiren's   
   W11 PE.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have.  At one   
   time you had a current Ventoy stick.  All you would have to do would be to   
   copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it.  Then we would have sound   
   via Win implementation.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I've gone past that stage!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten   
   how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a   
   simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as   
   far as I can recall.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to   
   consider.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.)   
   >>>   
   >>> Reposted   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those,   
   >> so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver   
   >> in the normal way.   
   >>   
   >>     Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN_6   
   0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE   
   >>     Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB)   
   >>     SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D887E   
   980FBAF22D237D585   
   >>   
   >> On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the   
   >> driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place.   
   >>   
   >>     You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel"   
   >>     and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to   
   >>     remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file varies)   
   â€“   
   >>     osirisgothra   
   >>     Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15   
   >>   
   >> In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power   
   saving.   
   >> These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved   
   successfully.   
   >>   
   >>     sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options   
   snd-hda-intel power_save=0'     # headphones   
   >>   
   >>     sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0      
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   speakers   
   >>   
   >> Equipment ID:   
   >>   
   >>     Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368        (Speaker Amp   
   Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital)   
   >>     Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001)   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > All very interesting, Paul, BUT .....   
   >   
   > What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to   
   > determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device?   
   >   
   > Thanks.   
   >   
      
   On Windows 10, you can check Device Manager (right-click start, it should be   
   in there).   
   But that's a bit of a bore.   
      
   Look for the speaker icon in the task bar.   
      
   Apparently, all outputs can be listed, but only   
   the devices which are currently hooked up and   
   ready to use, can be set as "Default Device".   
      
   If two devices are both ready (like my HDMI monitor   
   and my analog speakers), then I have two devices I   
   can alternate between.   
      
   *******   
      
   The difference on Linux Mint, is on the video card,   
   only the output which is running can be used for   
   an output. In the picture, only one of four video   
   card outputs is connected at present, so only   
   one LCD-monitor-related outputs can have sound on it.   
      
   On a laptop, when just the  (lvds) LCDpanel is being used,   
   there is no reason for any iGPU entry to be present   
   in the sound output selection.   
      
   The Realtek outputs are all listed, but the speakers   
   are plugged into LineOut at the moment. While Analog   
   Devices Soundmax has actual impedance measurement, and   
   some motherboards have side-contect HDAudio jacks to detect   
   that a plug is present, some motherboards do not know   
   that a plug is inserted. The RealTek does not typically   
   have impedance measurement capability (protected by a patent).   
      
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     Paul   
      
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