XPost: alt.os.linux.mint, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop   
   From: David@example.net   
      
   On 24/01/2025 19:45, Paul wrote:   
   > On Fri, 1/24/2025 3:55 AM, David wrote:   
   >> On 24/01/2025 07:40, Paul wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 1/23/2025 5:48 PM, David wrote:   
   >>>> On 23/01/2025 22:43, David wrote:   
   >>>>> On 23/01/2025 22:14, Mike Easter wrote:   
   >>>>>> BDB wrote:   
   >>>>>>> You may be pleased to learn that I am now on the latest version of   
   Windows 10!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On my Dell laptop Service Tag - 4WX4YB2   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 22H2     General Availability Channel     2022-10-18       
   2025-01-14 19045.5371 2025-10-14   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> My BIOS setting is now 1.23.1   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> *I still have no sound*.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What would you like me to try now?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> My recollection is that you had sound w/ both the MS W10 and the   
   Hiren's W11 PE.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I would recommend that you boot the live W11 PE that you have.  At one   
   time you had a current Ventoy stick.  All you would have to do would be to   
   copy the Hiren's .iso to that Ventoy and boot it.  Then we would have sound   
   via Win implementation.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I've gone past that stage!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> If you have 'destroyed' your Ventoy stick and you have also forgotten   
   how to make it w/ linux browser GUI, say so and maybe we can figure out a   
   simple route to see the device manager of a Win w/ working speakers.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Your memory is slipping! This Dell laptop has /never/ had any sound as   
   far as I can recall.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I thought you'd wanted to use the CLI to find information for you to   
   consider.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> (Windows 10 Usenet group added.)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Reposted   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> You have the Windows driver. But Windows has ways of rejecting those,   
   >>> so I don't know if a current Windows 10 will accept that driver   
   >>> in the normal way.   
   >>>   
   >>>      Name: Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver_D7VCY_WIN   
   6.0.1.8224_A08_02.EXE   
   >>>      Size: 318,464,720 bytes (303 MiB)   
   >>>      SHA256: 04A92B91607ECE504A72A5E9C22DC65A1BC2170B7D88   
   EA980FBAF22D237D585   
   >>>   
   >>> On the Linux side, it is suggested to do the following if the   
   >>> driver is blacklisted and some other driver was tried in its place.   
   >>>   
   >>>      You can quickfix this with a "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel"   
   >>>      and a "sudo alsactl force-reload' but you still need to   
   >>>      remove the blacklisted module in /etc/modprobe.d (which file   
   varies) –   
   >>>      osirisgothra   
   >>>      Commented Aug 13, 2023 at 21:15   
   >>>   
   >>> In addition, apparently some of the behaviors are related to Linux power   
   saving.   
   >>> These would only be of interest, if the previous paragraph was resolved   
   successfully.   
   >>>   
   >>>      sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options   
   snd-hda-intel power_save=0'     # headphones   
   >>>   
   >>>      sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x02 SET_POWER 0x0     
    Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  #   
   speakers   
   >>>   
   >>> Equipment ID:   
   >>>   
   >>>      Realtek ALC3253 on Dell Inspiron 13" 5368        (Speaker   
   Amp Type unknown -- could be 2W analog, not 5W digital)   
   >>>      Dell Inspiron 13-5368 2-In-1 (P69G001)   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> All very interesting, Paul, BUT .....   
   >>   
   >> What, exactly, do you recommend that I physically *DO*, now, to   
   >> determine if it is possible to play music or hear speech on this device?   
   >>   
   >> Thanks.   
   >>   
   >   
   > On Windows 10, you can check Device Manager (right-click start, it should be   
   in there).   
   > But that's a bit of a bore.   
   >   
   > Look for the speaker icon in the task bar.   
   >   
   > Apparently, all outputs can be listed, but only   
   > the devices which are currently hooked up and   
   > ready to use, can be set as "Default Device".   
   >   
   > If two devices are both ready (like my HDMI monitor   
   > and my analog speakers), then I have two devices I   
   > can alternate between.   
   >   
   > *******   
   >   
   > The difference on Linux Mint, is on the video card,   
   > only the output which is running can be used for   
   > an output. In the picture, only one of four video   
   > card outputs is connected at present, so only   
   > one LCD-monitor-related outputs can have sound on it.   
   >   
   > On a laptop, when just the  (lvds) LCDpanel is being used,   
   > there is no reason for any iGPU entry to be present   
   > in the sound output selection.   
   >   
   > The Realtek outputs are all listed, but the speakers   
   > are plugged into LineOut at the moment. While Analog   
   > Devices Soundmax has actual impedance measurement, and   
   > some motherboards have side-contect HDAudio jacks to detect   
   > that a plug is present, some motherboards do not know   
   > that a plug is inserted. The RealTek does not typically   
   > have impedance measurement capability (protected by a patent).   
   >   
   >     [Picture]   
   >   
   >      https://i.postimg.cc/dt02vvv6/speaker-selection.gif   
   >   
   >    Paul   
      
      
   Hi Paul   
      
   I followed the guidance from "David" on Microsoft Answers and made a new   
   bootable flash drive then once again installed Windows 10 on my old Dell   
   laptop. Sadly, still no sound!   
      
   On the Dell website, though, this time, I was able to carry out a   
   hardware scan. Here's a screenshot of the failures indicated:-   
   https://i.ibb.co/XjYDWtv/IMG-3158.jpg   
      
   Any comment beyond time to recycle it?!!   
      
   --   
   David   
      
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