From: nospam@needed.invalid
On Sun, 2/16/2025 10:42 AM, Davey wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 08:28:17 +0000
> Davey wrote:
>
>> On 16 Feb 2025 04:34:40 GMT
>> rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:05:10 +0000, Davey wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are other details that don't work, but these are the three
>>>> most annoying. I can supply details to help, as far as I
>>>> understand the questions. I see references to Snap, but I only
>>>> have a vague idea of what it is, But the folders do not list
>>>> Thunderbird, but do list Firefox, if that helps.
>>>
>>> snap install thunderbird
>>>
>>> 'snap list' will show the snaps that are installed. I'm at 24.10
>>> but Firefox is also a snap, as is the brave browser.
>>>
>>> During upgrades from 22.04 to 24.04 and 24.10 Thunderbird was a
>>> problem. I had to skip it and when the upgrade finished, 'snap
>>> refresh thunderbird'.
>>>
>>> Love it or hate it snap is here to stay.
>>
>> Thanks, I;ll try those and see what I get.
>> FWIW, I had success last night creating Local Folders on the Desktop
>> PC, and moving messages to them. But the laptop behaves differently.
>> Most annoying. More experimenting today, when I have caught up on the
>> other chores in my life that have been put on hold while I battle this
>> upgrade.
>>
>
> This is getting more and more complicated. 'snap' only shows
> thunderbird, no Firefox. But when I follow the directions for finding
> the Profile, the first route does not have the specified menu choices,
> and the method for a closed firefox shows nothing. It is as though I
> have a ghostly version of Firefox, which does indeed sound correct.
> So I am currently making sure that I have as much backed up as possible
> (I can't back up my Firefox profile, since I can't find it), but I have
> a TB profile ok.
> I might try 'snap install Firefox', in case that helps, or
> 'snap install thunderbird'. But there are so many more problems, such as
> VLC does not open the Network stream that worked before, but works on
> the other PC, no Automount, ssh won't in either direction, my rsync
> scripts all fail, etc. etc, that I am coming round to a choice:
> 1. Re-install ver 22.04 from scratch, and hope that the second attempt
> is better than the first. Maybe, maybe not.
> 2. Install 24.04. It can't be worse than 22.04 (!), and hopefully it is
> more reliable.
> 3. I might look at creating a /home partition, and possibly installing
> 24.04 alongside 22.04.
> 4. Maybe even try 24.04 alongside without a separate /home partition,
> and see if that works any better.
>
> Any thoughts welcome. This is costing a lot of time, and it should not
> have done.
>
> On the desktop, which appeared to have working Thunderbird Local
> Folders, I can move messages to new folders that I create there, but
> when I move old messages from back-up to the Local Folder files, they do
> not appear. So that is no better.
>
$ cd ~
$ ls -a
.local .mozilla Downloads
$ cd .mozilla
$ ls
firefox
$ cd firefox
$ ls
0gj9oytn.default
nu396rqk.default-release-1
tkngv7fa.default-release
profiles.ini <=== a text file
$ $ du -s 0gj9oytn.default nu396rqk.default-release-1 tkngv7fa.default-release
8 0gj9oytn.default
16664 nu396rqk.default-release-1
86660 tkngv7fa.default-release <=== ding! ding! ding!
*******
Thunderbird can be located, using similar logic.
It's likely to be off your home aka "~" directory.
If you do this for example
$ cd ~
$ find . -name profiles.ini -print
That should tell you where a few things are. You know
the profile folders have a fixed relationship to the
"profiles.ini" file. The "big" folder from a size perspective,
is most likely to be the active profile. The last
changed date on the folder materials, is also a hint which
one is being used. The profiles.ini itself is poorly designed
and some kind of sick joke.
Paul
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