From: davey@example.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:28:34 -0500   
   Paul  wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 2/16/2025 10:42 AM, Davey wrote:   
   > > On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 08:28:17 +0000   
   > > Davey  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 16 Feb 2025 04:34:40 GMT   
   > >> rbowman  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:05:10 +0000, Davey wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> There are other details that don't work, but these are the three   
   > >>>> most annoying. I can supply details to help, as far as I   
   > >>>> understand the questions. I see references to Snap, but I only   
   > >>>> have a vague idea of what it is, But the folders do not list   
   > >>>> Thunderbird, but do list Firefox, if that helps.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> snap install thunderbird   
   > >>>   
   > >>> 'snap list' will show the snaps that are installed. I'm at 24.10   
   > >>> but Firefox is also a snap, as is the brave browser.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> During upgrades from 22.04 to 24.04 and 24.10 Thunderbird was a   
   > >>> problem. I had to skip it and when the upgrade finished, 'snap   
   > >>> refresh thunderbird'.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Love it or hate it snap is here to stay.   
   > >>   
   > >> Thanks, I;ll try those and see what I get.   
   > >> FWIW, I had success last night creating Local Folders on the   
   > >> Desktop PC, and moving messages to them. But the laptop behaves   
   > >> differently. Most annoying. More experimenting today, when I have   
   > >> caught up on the other chores in my life that have been put on   
   > >> hold while I battle this upgrade.   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > > This is getting more and more complicated. 'snap' only shows   
   > > thunderbird, no Firefox. But when I follow the directions for   
   > > finding the Profile, the first route does not have the specified   
   > > menu choices, and the method for a closed firefox shows nothing. It   
   > > is as though I have a ghostly version of Firefox, which does indeed   
   > > sound correct. So I am currently making sure that I have as much   
   > > backed up as possible (I can't back up my Firefox profile, since I   
   > > can't find it), but I have a TB profile ok.   
   > > I might try 'snap install Firefox', in case that helps, or   
   > > 'snap install thunderbird'. But there are so many more problems,   
   > > such as VLC does not open the Network stream that worked before,   
   > > but works on the other PC, no Automount, ssh won't in either   
   > > direction, my rsync scripts all fail, etc. etc, that I am coming   
   > > round to a choice: 1. Re-install ver 22.04 from scratch, and hope   
   > > that the second attempt is better than the first. Maybe, maybe not.   
   > > 2. Install 24.04. It can't be worse than 22.04 (!), and hopefully   
   > > it is more reliable.   
   > > 3. I might look at creating a /home partition, and possibly   
   > > installing 24.04 alongside 22.04.   
   > > 4. Maybe even try 24.04 alongside without a separate /home   
   > > partition, and see if that works any better.   
   > >   
   > > Any thoughts welcome. This is costing a lot of time, and it should   
   > > not have done.   
   > >   
   > > On the desktop, which appeared to have working Thunderbird Local   
   > > Folders, I can move messages to new folders that I create there, but   
   > > when I move old messages from back-up to the Local Folder files,   
   > > they do not appear. So that is no better.   
   > >   
   >   
   > $ cd ~   
   > $ ls -a   
   >  .local     .mozilla     Downloads   
   > $ cd .mozilla   
   > $ ls   
   > firefox   
   > $ cd firefox   
   > $ ls   
   > 0gj9oytn.default   
   > nu396rqk.default-release-1   
   > tkngv7fa.default-release   
   > profiles.ini              <=== a text file   
   >   
   > $ $ du -s 0gj9oytn.default nu396rqk.default-release-1   
   > tkngv7fa.default-release 8       0gj9oytn.default   
   > 16664   nu396rqk.default-release-1   
   > 86660   tkngv7fa.default-release    <=== ding! ding! ding!   
   >   
   > *******   
   >   
   > Thunderbird can be located, using similar logic.   
   > It's likely to be off your home aka "~" directory.   
   >   
   > If you do this for example   
   >   
   > $ cd ~   
   > $ find . -name profiles.ini -print   
   >   
   > That should tell you where a few things are. You know   
   > the profile folders have a fixed relationship to the   
   > "profiles.ini" file. The "big" folder from a size perspective,   
   > is most likely to be the active profile. The last   
   > changed date on the folder materials, is also a hint which   
   > one is being used. The profiles.ini itself is poorly designed   
   > and some kind of sick joke.   
   >   
   >    Paul   
      
   Thanks. Project for Monday.   
   Cheers,   
      
   --   
   Davey.   
      
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