From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 6/4/2025 3:11 AM, CtrlAltDel wrote:   
   > I currently own an old Dell XPS 8700 desktop that boots in legacy mode.  I   
   > have cloned the / drive, using FoxClone, onto a 2.5 inch SATA SSD drive. I   
   > can remove the SSD that is in the computer and replace it with the cloned   
   > SSD and it works great.   
   >   
   > But, what will I need to do if I were to buy a new computer and wanted to   
   > simply place this SSD into the new computer and have it boot right up?   
   > What type of trouble am I going to run into with UEFI vs. Legacy boot with   
   > that SSD.  MBR vs. GPT format?   
   >   
   > I've tried the cloned SSD on another older computer, Dell Inspiron,   
   > running Windows 7 with UEFI boot, and it doesn't work.  I've tried   
   > disabling UEFI boot on the Inspiron and booting in legacy mode and get   
   > nothing.   
   >   
   > The best I can get, using a USB 3.0 to SATA cable, is that it will boot up   
   > to the login screen of Mint and I can type in my password and just get a   
   > message of you are in emergency mode, press enter for maintenance, or   
   > control D to continue, but all options are a loop and lead back to the   
   > sign in dialog.   
   >   
   > Let's say I buy a Dell Precision 3680 as my next desktop computer.  How am   
   > I going to be able to make this 500GB SSD clone of my current Mint 22.1   
   > setup run with it?  Can I clone the 2.5 500GB SATA SSD to the Precision's   
   > NVMe's 512GB SSD and somehow save the current Mint setup that I have now?   
   >   
      
   Jebus. An empty-box-special. Mr.Dell is getting a new pair of shoes :-)   
      
   Precision 3680 Tower Workstation   
   Model: 3680   
   Dell Price CAD $1,547.12   <=== Rly ? With no separate graphics card to jack   
   price ???   
      
       Intel Core i5 14500 (14 cores, up to 5.0 GHz Turbo, 65 W)   
       Windows 11 Pro, English, Brazilian Portuguese, French, Spanish   
       Intel Integrated Graphics UHD 770, 32EU   
       8GB: 1 x 8 GB, DDR5, 4400 MT/s, non-ECC                      <=== Yum   
       Precision 3680 Tower with 300W (80 Plus Platinum) PSU, DAO   <=== whoosh,   
   and whoosh again   
      
   Maybe you could fit all that in a smaller case and charge half as much ?   
      
   I'm not a fan of Dell BIOS, so I would run away. I like hardware that   
   doesn't get in your road all the time, as a Scot would say.   
      
   *******   
      
   What I do here, is use the Boot Repair disc, put that in the tray and   
   repair the boot on the thing. That should allow correcting actual   
   boot anomalies, such as modern machines that are missing boot   
   flexibility. All my machines are still UEFI/CSM, but if I were to   
   buy a current year bit of kit, it would be UEFI with Secure Boot   
   on or off. Boot Repair is what I would try. I have done a small   
   amount of test on the big machine in UEFI-only mode, and it seems   
   to work. Some thingy was revoked by Windows, and the Linux shims   
   worked just fine with it. There might have been one little dust-up   
   with the MOK.   
      
   As near as I could determine, while the Driver Manager can nicely bodge in   
   an NVidia binary blob driver, if I take my SSD and stick it in a   
   5600G with AMD graphics, something in the OS is clever enough to   
   load a non-NVidia driver. Now, that could be modprobe, but I suspect   
   something might be editing a blacklist as well, so other assorted   
   rubbish sitting in my OS does not interfere.   
      
   LM213 would boot on older hardware. I'm not sure the LM221   
   graphics situation is good for my really old stuff (HD6450   
   graphics). I think on my 7900GT PCIe graphics, one of those   
   boot disks actually crashed in graphics (Jammed up, graphics froze,   
   couldn't use F keys to escape) while Windows 10 could work that   
   card just fine. I would have to bring it up in single   
   user mode, and I have my suspicions even Nouveau as a driver   
   wouldn't be good enough on LM221.   
      
   Summary: I would say that some of the time, a little Boot Repair   
            is enough for a good time. I'm not sure I'm Houdini-enough   
            for every graphics situation. Using Driver Manager, you can   
            try flipping the graphics back to defaults, test, before cloning,   
            and see if Nouveau and AMDGPU or whatever, can automatically   
            run the graphics on the new equipment. Then Driver Manager   
            it, to what it really wants.   
      
      Paul   
      
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