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|    Paul to Felix    |
|    Re: Hard drive question    |
|    27 Jul 25 07:43:44    |
      From: nospam@needed.invalid              On Sun, 7/27/2025 6:21 AM, Felix wrote:       > Paul wrote:              >> The hard drive has automatic sparing, which means if there       >> is trouble with a sector, the drive has some spare sectors       >> in the immediate area.       >       > that's good. is it solely a Linux thing, or windows also?              Automatic sparing on ATA drives (SATA or IDE) is a hardware-supported       activity. It happens no matter what OS is involved, it even       works for Macintosh computers :-)              >> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda       >       > how would I specify other than the C drive?              On Linux, the letter on the end is the drive identifier               Windows Disk0 Linux /dev/sda        Windows Disk1 Linux /dev/sdb        Windows Disk2 Linux /dev/sdc              Windows has Disk Management (diskmgmt.msc), while Linux has "gnome-disks".       Use the menu in "gnome-disks" to select a particular hard drive like       /dev/sdc , to show the partitions on it.              The Linux gparted utility, can also display disks in a format that       sort of looks like Windows Disk Management.              >       > so drives self test themselves and avoid writing to bad blocks making drive       testing somewhat unnecessary?              No!              Drives watch a sector that is being read, for symptoms that the sector needs       to be checked.       Sectors which you did not use a computer program to read, can remain       unverified for years       and years.              The SMART short test or the SMART long test, both of those complete too       quickly to verify       the entire surface.              Automatic sparing responds to sectors you are visiting at the moment. The more       busy a partition is, the more likely some of the sectors will be evaluated and       spared out if something is wrong with them.              But if you want to know the state of the entire surface, you run a thorough       surface       scan, which takes hours and uses an application program for the determination.              Take the following list of activities:               (1) Read the entire surface        (2) Write the entire surface        (3) Read the entire surface              Now, all the automatic sparing should be up to date.              >       > I remember when a 25mb drive was huge :)              I was able to put two years worth of files, onto a 10MB drive.       That's how long it took to fill up the drive. The average file       size back then was 2KB, there were no picture files on the       disk drive, and the document editor was non-WYSIWYG and used       "format commands", which meant there was no bloat in formatted       documents either. It was certainly a different time, in terms       of what kind of files went onto a disk drive.               Paul              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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