From: alan@invalid.com   
      
   On 8/14/25 3:01 AM, Paul wrote:   
   > On Wed, 8/13/2025 5:32 PM, Russell Gadd wrote:   
   >> Mint 22.1 Mate. Anyone seen rapidly increasing ~/.xsession-errors file with   
   this sort of message?   
   >> (caja:1616): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL   
   >> GFileInfo created without standard::symlink-target   
   >>   
   >> tried to find problem via ChatGPT but no success   
   >>   
   >   
   > You don't need ChatGPT to track things like that down.   
   >   
   > The "answer" is sort of available here, but the "disposition",   
   > how do we fix it, is evident by looking at the lineup info   
   > on Distrowatch for the packaging.   
   >   
   >     "2023-11-26"   
   >   
   >     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/caja/+bug/2044635   
   >   
   >        "Seems caja 1.27.2 has fixed that issue; please merge it from master   
   asap"   
   >   
   > Something tells me "this will be messy". Getting to that revision   
   > number or later, will be tough. Not even a PPA guarantees a   
   > clean transition, because Clem Customization could be affected   
   > if you change the "package alignment".   
   >   
   >     https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=414780   
   >   
   > Here is a picture of my situation in a virtual machine.   
   > You can see in Distrowatch, the sequence of release numbers for   
   > the MATE in LinuxMint, versus the MATE upstream, and it appears   
   > Clem is not "moving fast and breaking things". The API version   
   > is not changing, so he does not have to rebuild all his customization.   
   > The release numbers would have "moved faster" if there was not   
   > a secret reason to be "dragging ones feet" about it. That is my   
   interpretation   
   > of the info in Distrowatch.   
   >   
   >     [Picture]   
   >   
   >      https://i.postimg.cc/yNhDDphd/LM221-MATE-Caja-Is-Old.gif   
   >   
   > If it bothers you, you could install another DE than MATE, like a Cinnamon.   
   >   
   > If the whole desktop did not rely on that file and its release   
   > number, this would be a LOT easier to fix. Clem could fix it,   
   > but the answers/comments I've seen from Clem before, he deflects   
   > to upstream, and that's not what is required in this case. I get the   
   > impression, Clem only wants to update MATE about every five years,   
   > as a forklift change. It's not like magically in LM22.2 this would   
   > be fixed. I would bet the sub-version would not change enough to   
   > achieve any result, let alone the fix you want.   
   >   
   >     Paul   
   Could Nemo be installed as a substitute file manager for a while?   
      
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