XPost: aus.computers, alt.os.linux.debian   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 8/17/2025 8:15 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On 18 Aug 2025 08:18:31 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >   
   >> In alt.os.linux.debian Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:40:48 +1000, Xeno wrote:   
   >>> .   
   >>>> On 17/8/2025 5:07 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:59:27 +1000, Xeno wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A burnt CD has as much capacity, is in some cases - rewritable, and is   
   >>>>>> easier to fit into a SAFE. Zip disks are NOT paragons of reliability.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Rewritable optical media were never paragons of reliability, either.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But they take up little space so - backups of backups.   
   >>>   
   >>> I used write-once media for that.   
   >>   
   >> Such discs still degrade, just maybe not as fast.   
   >   
   > They did last for a few years. Unlike rewritable media.   
   >   
   >>> Nowadays USB sticks are even more compact.   
   >>   
   >> But also vulnerable to degrading over time.   
   >   
   > They would last even longer.   
   >   
      
   USB sticks, the NAND does not last forever, and the USB stick   
   is a poor archival media.   
      
   The M-DISC could be pretty good, as time capsule material,   
   but you have to wonder about the drives that are for sale now.   
      
      https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-98913-M-Disc-100GB-Surface/dp/B011PIJPOC   
      
      https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Blu-ray-M-DISC-Burner-WH16NS5   
   DUP/dp/B09GFK6Y9G   
      
   I don't have a BluRay drive, and I don't plan on buying one either.   
   The golden age of optical, has passed.   
      
      Paul   
      
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