From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 10/24/2025 2:48 PM, s|b wrote:   
      
   >   
   > If you have anything valuable to add, please do, but don't start   
   > nitpicking.   
   >   
      
   If you are changing the security stance of the OS, without   
   a thorough understanding of what you are doing, that's   
   not helping.   
      
   For example, you help them in some non-standard way,   
   they seek help from someone else, and that someone else   
   asks "they did what ?". That leaves the user to doubt   
   the help being received at both sites.   
      
   Start by helping within the confines of the problem first.   
      
   *******   
      
   Let's take Tiny11 as an example. It's an OS "where the bloat was removed".   
   Now, the individual who made that, may have had the best intentions.   
   Are they "tree herder class", or maybe "just a nerd who has had   
   too much caffeine" ? I don't know./   
      
   If someone comes to the Windows 11 group and says "I've installed   
   Tiny11 and suddenly I can't print". Well, now my position is,   
   I'm a helper for Tiny11 not Windows11. Maybe the documentation   
   available for Windows11 does not apply to the situation,   
   because key packages were removed.   
      
   In the end, is Tiny11 a benefit or a hazard ? You've gone from   
   thousands of people who could help you with your problem,   
   to two guys in a Github Issues thread.   
      
   I would recommend staying within the lines painted on the   
   street, rather than off-roading.   
      
   If you REALLY REALLY want a distro with the root account   
   enabled and routinely used, there are distros for you to   
   select, where everything is designed with that in mind.   
   For example, one distro (Knoppix?), had a red colored   
   Root Terminal right on the Taskbar, you click that and   
   you're administering as root. Knoppix is a distro intended   
   to run from the DvD, rather than being an install-able   
   distro. That's an example where I may have "shopped"   
   for a distro which is equipped that way.   
      
   Knoppix in the old days, would do mounts read-only. This   
   is good for forensic work, where you want to "look but   
   don't touch". You can do a "remount" to open a volume   
   r/w and write files on it. I liked that, as a "safety approach".   
   Other distros, some mount everything in sight and splatter   
   the left hand vertical area with disk icons. Other distros   
   now hide everything, and when you mount, you use   
   gnome-disks and click the partition you want mounted.   
      
   Each of these things had a guiding philosophy when they   
   were done. And it's up to us when guiding people, to   
   explain the philosophy and work within the constraints   
   that provides.   
      
   Summary: When helping people, the idea is to not make a   
            situation worse than it already is. I've watched one   
            person who does IT as a small operation of his own for   
            money. He makes a mess as he goes, but he also puts   
            the hours into customer sites, fixing what he broke   
            so that the customer is not inconvenienced. Most helpers   
            do not have the time for "remoting into customer X   
            computer at midnight and fixing that printer" That's how   
            he works. He wrote his own backup software.   
      
            Good support is a "light touch", not a "redesign of the distro".   
            Just some friendly advice.   
      
            This is how we shop. A solution for every taste.   
      
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      Paul   
      
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