XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 10/27/2025 9:54 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
   > On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote:   
   >> DistroWatch had what I think is a pretty good q&a here this week.   
   >> Kinda hits home with recent events in Windows 10 EOL.   
   >>   
   >> Short read.   
   >>   
   >> https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20251027#qa   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Advice for new Linux users   
   >>   
   >> Roll-out-the-welcome-mat asks: With all the new Linux users coming over   
   with the End of   
   >> 10, any advice for the Linux newbies?   
   >>   
   >>   
   > "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is provided   
   > by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are accustomed to   
   > browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a download link,   
   > and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of that. We can open   
   > the software centre (or "app store") and find just about anything we need."   
   >   
   > Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me. (I don't _want_ to   
   > "skip all that".)   
   >   
   > And of course it hasn't caught up with ESU, implying it still needs   
   > minor hoop-jumping (which AIUI is now not the case for many).   
   >   
      
   No, you don't open the Software Centre.   
      
   What are we, cave men ?   
      
   This stanza has everything you need to know about lame distros (Debian   
   ecosystem).   
   Some distros have "religion", the participants put a bag over their   
   head and they remove "universe" and "multiverse". You, put it back.   
   You update the package listing of the distro with an update command.   
   Some distros remove "synaptic", in an effort to trick you.   
   You put "synaptic" package manager back -- which is just fine, thanks.   
   No need for pillow stuffing via the ponderously slow Software Centre.   
   Jebus.   
      
      sudo add-apt-repository universe   
      sudo add-apt-repository multiverse   
      sudo apt-get update   
      sudo apt-get install synaptic   
      sudo synaptic   
      
   Packages are also available from places like github, if you want to   
   "offroad". But the repository has somewhere between 25000 and 50000   
   pieces of software, reasonably secure and ready to go. If you go   
   outside the distro, you are responsible for the security posture   
   that brings with it.   
      
   Next, someone will be telling us that SNAPs are wonderful, when   
   all they do is waste disk space. Imagine Ubuntu shipping a 6GB DVD,   
   and when the install is finished, important utilities are missing   
   because "there wasn't room". And the SNAPs on the DVD that   
   took up all the room ? The OS re-downloads those, as a punishment   
   for you. The SNAPs are monolithic, not modular.   
      
   That's what your friends are for in a distro -- they tell you   
   where not to step into pooh.   
      
   The Linux Mint DVDs are around 3GB. If the DVD is getting a bit   
   old, then you can expect around 1GB of updates to install   
   soon afterwards. But these are small packages being repaired   
   one at a time. Packages are for making the update system   
   more economical. A Firefox or a LibreOffice, those are   
   bound to be a bit bigger than some support library.   
      
      Paul   
      
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