XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 10/27/2025 5:35 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:54:41 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025/10/27 12:14:46, Alan K. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >> "With Linux, almost every application you are going to run is   
   >> provided by your distribution. … Windows and macOS users are   
   >> accustomed to browsing the web, looking for applications, clicking a   
   >> download link, and running an installer. With Linux we skip all of   
   >> that. We can open the software centre (or "app store") and find just   
   >> about anything we need."   
   >>   
   >> Sounds very Mac- (or modern-Windows-)like to me.   
   >   
   > Neither Apple nor Microsoft can offer such a high degree of integrated   
   > package management. Apple has an app store for its mobile platforms,   
   > not so much for actual Macintosh PCs. Microsoft tried to create an app   
   > store for Windows, but so far, from what I hear, it’s a barren desert.   
   >   
      
   The OS is a thousand packages in Windows, and when a Cumulative patch   
   comes in, the scanner goes through the OS, and matches things   
   needing patches, with the specific patch. Cumulatives can contain   
   more content than is really needed. But because the software   
   is split into packages, smaller objects are getting patched.   
      
   Even the download method is selective. I was doing a Windows Update   
   on this machine, and the download was going along slowly 1% 2% 3%,   
   and I was looking elsewhere and when I looked back it was a 90%, and   
   it obviously didn't get there by linearly download all the items from   
   3% to 90% in 30 second. That is likely some amount of scanning and   
   selection, deciding that most of what it proposed to install,   
   was already installed.   
      
   The tree keeps multiple versions. If one program needs version1   
   of a library, and another program needs version2,   
   they're both in the tree.   
      
   As an example of a package in the Windows tree, there is a version   
   of libarchive. That was integrated the same way as .zip and .cab   
   support was done in WinXP. Now, you can open a .7z and copy files   
   out of the inside of a .7z, as if it was a folder. And libarchive   
   needs more frequent patches, because archives are the targets   
   of exploits.   
      
   When it comes to third party software from the Store, the equivalent   
   of that on Linux is Google Earth, which is third party, and on at   
   least one distro, is include via a ppa linkage.   
      
      Paul   
      
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