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   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 10/30/2025 12:01 PM, s|b wrote:   
   > On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 20:03:13 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:   
   >   
   >> It's pretty easy to help new linux users.  I just point them to the man   
   >> pages and say RTFM.  They get the message instantly.   
   >   
   > /s (?)   
   >   
      
   There is a gentle message there, somewhere.   
      
   I got that treatment when I entered a UNIX shop.   
   I asked the guru there, two questions the first morning.   
   I'm not really a pest, like it wasn't the spanish inquisition,   
   and he laid down the rules pretty quickly. He said   
      
      "buy a book, come back and see me if the book does not have the answer"   
      
   and he could name one I should have as he keeps one at his desk,   
   and this was sage advice. You read the available documentation   
   to some extent, so that the "easy" questions are handled without   
   wasting guru time. And rather than feeling shunned, the   
   recommendation was not done in a nasty style, and no insult   
   taken. It was good advice. But finding an entire book on Bourne   
   Shell back in the day, one item was out of print, and I had to   
   settle for a book which devoted one chapter to Bourne shell.   
   The successor to Bourne, is Bash which stands for Bourne Again Shell.   
      
   And that means going to the book store and seeing if an   
   entire book has been written on Bash shell instead.   
      
   Some things in Bash, are built-in capabilities, while   
   others require "helper executables" for their usage.   
   This can be confusing, if the man tree doesn't seem   
   to have the desired info.   
      
   You need somewhat of a primer, on dot files, like   
   configuration files squirreled away in your home   
   directory. And what some of them do. And under   
   what circumstances they are evaluated while you work.   
   Environment variable can be inherited, from one   
   forked process to another, but some things you do,   
   start with a fresh execution of a dot file   
   (like a .profile perhaps).   
      
   Just to list and see dot files, needs some help   
      
      ls      # I don't want to see my stinking dot files   
      
      ls -a   # Now, I want to see those files, as they contain secrets   
      
   Even directories can have dots, to hide them.   
      
      ~/.config      # Example, absolute path would be /home/paul/.config   
      
      cd /home/paul  # Which is the same as cd ~   
      ls -a          # Maybe .config is there   
      
      ls -a | grep -i config   # Reduce it to the one line of output   
                               # For very large, garbage filled directories, do   
   it like that   
      
     Paul   
      
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