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   Message 29,564 of 30,566   
   Jeff Layman to Dan Purgert   
   Re: DistroWatch Q&A: Advice for new Linu   
   31 Oct 25 08:43:38   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: Jeff@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 30/10/2025 22:58, Dan Purgert wrote:   
   > On 2025-10-30, Jeff Layman wrote:   
   >> On 30/10/2025 13:13, Dan Purgert wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-10-30, Jeff Layman wrote:   
   >>>> On 30/10/2025 10:28, Dan Purgert wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-10-30, Jeff Layman wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 29/10/2025 21:57, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>>>>> gunzip -c $(man -w bash) | groff -ktman -Tpdf | okular -   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> (computer name):~$ gunzip -c $(man -w bash) | groff -ktman -Tpdf |   
   okular -   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> groff: fatal error: cannot load 'DESC' description file for device 'pdf'   
   >>>>>> org.kde.okular.core: No plugin for mimetype '"application/x-zerosize"'.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Chances are you've only got 'groff-base' installed, rather than the full   
   >>>>> 'groff' package.   
   >>>>> [...]   
   >>>>>      3. "apt install groff" to install the full package.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Successfully installed. There's quite a lot of it, but I've plenty of   
   >>>> disk space.   
   >>>   
   >>> [...]   
   >>> Alternatively, in Mint, I believe that if you create a $HOME/bin/   
   >>> directory, it will be added to your $PATH on the next login.  But that   
   >>> has the "downside" of not being globally accessible then (mostly a   
   >>> concern if you have multiple users on your PCs -- SO, kids,   
   >>> just-for-banking, whatever).   
   >>   
   >> Thanks for the script. I'm the only user of this laptop, so I'll   
   >> probably do it via a $HOME/bin/ directory. I've never made an executable   
   >> file, but I'll have a read up on how to do it.   
   >   
   > Save the file, then 'chmod o+x thefile"   
   >   
   >    chmod --> change mode (permission) bits   
   >    o+x --> for "o"wner, set the e"x"ecute bit   
   >    thefile --> just a placeholder for the filename you saved it as   
   >   
   >>   
   >> I have a question or perhaps two (they might be related) - which perhaps   
   >> should be directed to Lawrence, but I'm pretty sure you'll know the   
   >> answer. After running:   
   >> :~$ gunzip -c $(man -w bash) | groff -ktman -Tpdf | okular -   
   >> the terminal remained open, and when I tried to close it was warned that   
   >> there was still a process running in it, and closing the terminal would   
   >> kill it. Why does that script not end cleanly (if that's the right term)?   
   >   
   > Because the okular (the last part of that pipeline) was still running.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Also, at the end, he said:   
   >> (Substitution of alternative PDF viewer is left as an exercise for the   
   >> reader.)   
   >> I tried the $ gunzip... expression he used, but substituting qpdfview   
   >> for okular.   
   >>   
   >> That, however, resulted in qpdfview opening, but with an error message:   
   >> "Warning   
   >> Could not open '-' "   
   >   
   > you'll need to read the qpdfview manual to determine what switch (if   
   > any) it needs to be told "read from stdin".   
   >   
   > It may also be the case that you cannot pipe input into qpdfview (I know   
   > evince has this shortcoming).   
   >   
   >> I was a bit puzzled, but then remembered that when Okular opened with   
   >> the manual text, I tried to save it but couldn't as both "Save" and   
   >> "Save as" were greyed out. I was able to print that manual as "another"   
   >> pdf, and that's what I was referring to in my reply as being much easier   
   >> to use.   
   >   
   > Artifact of opening it from a pipeline.   
   >   
   > If you want to save the output as a file, this is a little more   
   > straightforward:   
   >   
   >    gunzip -c $(man -w WHATEVER) | groff -ktman -Tpdf > WHATEVER.pdf   
   >   
   >   
   > Instead of sending the groff conversion output of the "WHATEVER" manpage   
   > into okular, the above command stuffs it into the file "WHATEVER.pdf"   
   > (then you can open it with whatever viewer you want).   
      
   That's all clear, thanks, and saved for reference.   
      
   --   
   Jeff   
      
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