From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Mon, 11/17/2025 6:25 PM, Felix wrote:   
   > Paul wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 11/17/2025 5:02 AM, Felix wrote:   
   >>> Mike Easter wrote:   
   >>>> Felix wrote:   
   >>>>> Mike Easter wrote:   
   >>>>>> The other thing you can do graphically w/ your file manager is to use   
   it to navigate to File System/ media/ and then pick that Timeshift disk and R   
   click it to get a function that has a Permissions tab.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> it's saying I'm not the owner.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://auslink.info/linux/tmdisk.png   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> What I'm going to say about that ownership problem is not 'good advice',   
   but I mention it because you indicated earlier that you prefer to do things w/   
   a GUI if possible, and so do I.   
   >>>>   
   >>> I'm happy to use the command line, as long as I know the code is correct   
   of course   
   >>>   
   >>>> You are *supposed to* fix these kind of problems/conditions w/ the   
   command line, but it /can/ be done graphically if you choose to act against   
   the good advice.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You can use your file manager graphically in a 'root' or su condition and   
   change the permissions.  I'm assuming that your fm is Nemo in Cinnamon.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If you navigate to that disk and R click in Nemo you can open the dir as   
   root by giving authentication. Then you can change the permissions graphically   
   w/ the elevated privileges.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 'They say' you aren't supposed to do that and the proper instructions are   
   commandline chown.   
   >>>>   
   >>> the question in my mind is WHY am I not the owner? if you can give me the   
   correct code, I will use the terminal   
   >>>   
   >> cd ~   
   >> ls -algtR     # Dump a tree, showing perms and ownership   
   >   
   > yikes! that produced hundreds (thousands?) of lines of code.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> ls -al        # Show just the current directory of stuff   
   >>   
   >> drwx------  4 felix felix  4096 Jul 16  2023 .mozilla    <=== d   
   stands for "this is a directory"   
   >> -rw-r--r--  1 felix felix   807 Jul 16  2023 .profile    <=== 644   
   perms for a felix text file   
   >>   
   >> The first field can be changed with "chmod"   
   >>   
   >> The fields a little further over use "chown"   
   >>   
   >>     sudo chown felix:felix .profile             # Make it so   
   Felix owns his own profile.   
   >>                                  
   Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  # You use chown, to be elevated enough to   
   change those names.   
   >>   
   >>     sudo -R chown felix:felix .mozilla          # Change   
   .mozilla and everything below it so Felix owns it.   
   >   
   > this is too complicated for me   
   >   
   >>   
   >> These are things, you should really look for a Google tutorial page,   
   >> to get a more thorough presentation.   
   >   
   > everything is working as it should eg. timeshift, dejadup, without the   
   ownership matter being resolved, so I think I will just leave things be   
   >   
   >>   Like, right now, I'm too tired   
   >> to do a good job of this.   
   >   
   > thanks anyway. sorry I troubled you :(   
      
   You can redirect voluminous output to a text file.   
      
      ls -algtR > ~/mylist.txt     # Save output for while you work   
      
      xed ~/mylist.txt             # Use a text editor for navigation through the   
   text   
      
   The output can also be piped into "less", which   
   obeys PgUp and PgDn keys for navigation. Type "q" to quit   
   the "less" session. This allows "viewing" an output, without   
   making a huge mess. You can sample the output, to see if the   
   pattern in the output is worth keeping. Then switch over   
   to the stdout redirection > to capture all the output in a   
   text file for later.   
      
      ls -algtR | less   
      
   *******   
      
   You can use "df" to list the partitions and mounts   
   and to "give yourself path names" to work with. The "/"   
   encompasses everything, while /media/mint/blah is   
   one partition only.   
      
   You can use kdirstat or qdirstat, to review an entire   
   computer in one shot. These are programs that show you   
   the size of things, but by using the navigation symbols   
   in the view window, you can also open subsections of a partition   
   for inspection. Like, maybe, noticing a cache to has a hundred   
   thousand files and is slowing down something you are trying   
   to do.   
      
      sudo apt install kdirstat   
      sudo apt install qdirstat   
      
      sudo kdirstat /     # View system from 60,000 feet.   
      sudo qdirstat /     # View system from 60,000 feet.   
      
   Notice that, when you ask to install those,   
   one item has a huge number of dependencies, the   
   other has fewer dependencies. I usually install   
   the economical one first, and I bail out of the   
   "expensive to install" one, if it threatens to add   
   too many packages to my slash. If one of them says   
   it will download 500MB of files, you can answer No   
   as to whether to install it or not, then try the other   
   one on for size.   
      
   Those can also be installed via Synaptic graphical interface   
      
      sudo synaptic &      # Non-blocking launch, allowing more commands   
                           # to be entered in your Terminal session.   
      
      Paul   
      
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