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   keithr0 to Jeff Layman   
   Re: Cool new open source privacy oriente   
   01 Dec 25 16:55:34   
   
   XPost: aus.computers   
   From: me@bugger.off.com.au   
      
   On 1/12/2025 7:11 am, Jeff Layman wrote:   
   > On 30/11/2025 18:55, Mike Easter wrote:   
   >> Monsieur wrote:   
   >>> Felix wrote:   
   >>>> s|b wrote:   
   >>>>> Felix wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://helium.computer/   
   >>>>> Why exactly is it kewl?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's fast, best privacy and unbiased ad-blocking by default, no   
   >>>> adware, no bloat, no noise, fully open source, very clean look, etc.,   
   >>>   
   >>> But still uses Chromium, so no thank you.   
   >>   
   >> If you are going to build a browser, it HAS TO have a layout engine; you   
   >> don't want to start w/ a hammer and chisel. The open source chromium's   
   >> engine is actually blink, off webkit a long time ago.   
   >>   
   >> If you are 'politically' anti-google, I'm not sure that should extend to   
   >> everything opensource that google has ever contributed.   
   >   
   > The problem is that the complexity of modern programs/apps/OSs is beyond   
   > the understanding of any individual. I see that Chromium has over 36   
   > million lines of code; how can anyone know what all that code does?   
   > Google maintains Chromium, and according to the Chromium blog ( blog.chromium.org/2025/01/announcing-supporters-of-chromium-based.html>):   
   > "In 2024, Google made over 100,000 commits to Chromium, accounting for   
   > ~94 percent of contributions."   
   >   
   > If the ~94% holds true for chromium since it appeared in 2008, that   
   > would mean about 34 million lines of code came from Google. What does it   
   > all do? Has anyone gone through it all in the same way that GrapheneOS   
   > has done with Android?   
      
   Isn't that a thing with open source anyway? Not everything is generated   
   by some enthusiast banging away in his or her spare time, but by people   
   employed by large companies who make use of FOSS stuff and contribute   
   back to it.   
      
   > And, as far as I know, the only extensions you can get for any Chromium-   
   > based browser come from the Chrome web store - not even a "Chromium web   
   > store"! That is an even worse position than Android, as you can get apps   
   > from F-Droid and others.   
   >   
      
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