From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 12/11/2025 11:08 AM, Edmund wrote:   
   > Bug reporting, never mind.   
   > I recently got tempted to try and report a bug, after asking Google how to   
   do that,   
   > ending up with dead links and complains from other that it   
   > is extremely complicated or better, impossible.   
   > OK never mind, our cut and paste coders don't care anyway.   
   >   
   > It reminds me of the old:   
   > The second with a complaint will be shot, one complain we already had.   
   >   
      
   Bug reporting is an art.   
      
   Practice makes perfect.   
      
   If you do not provide substantial related information in   
   one of these queries, nobody can turn your experience into   
   a positive one for you.   
      
   And there are some projects, I WOULD NOT recommend you file a bug.   
   Many other sites, the individuals involved are fully functional,   
   balanced human beings. But nothing prevents a bug reporting scheme,   
   from being filled with ass-hats. It happens.   
      
   On a typical site:   
      
   1) Authenticate yourself. You need to create an account, or   
      they may have some social media login as a solution.   
      
   2) Create the standard fileset defined for a bug report.   
      This establishes what distro this is, what kernel, what   
      graphics card and driver, what release of application this is,   
      and so on. On some sites, there is a bash shell they offer,   
      for generating the files.   
      
   3) Craft your description in the text, the way that other   
      "successful" threads craft them. You need sufficient color   
      commentary about what you were doing, to not leave the bug buster   
      wondering exactly what you were doing. Why, it's almost like crafting   
      good USENET questions, in fact :-) Nobody on the other side of   
      the screen, is a mind reader.   
      
      Paul   
      
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